Aaron Graham

In article <UFHPa.38271$H17.11817@sccrnsc02>, "Jeff"
<**jtbrown@insightbb.com**> wrote:

> I have a 4wd hardware tub, it hangs about 1/4 inch off rear member, and I
> have 1 5/8 to the radiator fins, I ran into a guy with a cj5 tub form
> aj's
> and he has eaten 2 radiator's he finnal;y went to a pusher elec fan.

I am really thinking about going to an electric, especially since I live
in upstate NY where the temps don't get that hot.

I have been reading alot about the Taurus fan swap...


I also find it amazing the fiberglass tub makers don't mark their tubs
in anyway. I don't know who made my tub as it was installed by a
previous owner.



> "Aaron Graham" <aarons48willys@NOSPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> news:aarons48willys-860759.13193110072003@news2.localnet.com...
> > In article <vgr6cqfditnab8@corp.supernews.com>, "Jeff Strickland"
> > <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't measured my fan to radiator distance, but I would guess
> > > that
> it
> > > is
> > > in the inch to inch and a half range.
> > >
> > > Are you sure the body mounts are all tight and not broken?
> >
> > Just replaced them all with new bushings and bolts.
> >
> > Also, are you
> > > sure the radiator mounts in the grill are not broken? The last time
> > > we
> > > spoke, I went home and looked at mine, and the grill section of the
> > > body
> > > is
> > > broken near the bottom radiator mount bolts.
> >
> > The bottom of the grill is rusted pretty bad, but if I try to move the
> > radiator it just makes the back parts where radiator bolts to flex.
> >
> > I also had the fan deliver
> > > the
> > > kiss of death to my raditor a few years ago, and the radiator mounts
> that
> > > bolt to the inside of the grill had actually broken the welds on the
> > > radiator tank.
> > >
> > > You can look at the arc of the contact point and determine which side
> > > is
> > > allowing the radiator to move around, perhaps you can get a clue
> > > here.
> >
> > It is arc'd across the top, but my radiator is also not completely
> > vertical, slightly tilted back at the top. Not sure exactly why but I
> > believe it is due to the rusted out bottom. I ned to take the grill
> > out
> > to see exactly what is wrong. It could just be that the grill was
> > installed wrong as the fenders only attach using the top two bolts, the
> > bottom bolt does not line up with the fender(or it could be the
> > fiberglass fenders are made wrong).
> >
> >
> > I will try to take some pictures tonight to explain everything
> > better...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I had a 4 core, the the kiss of death resulted in replacing it with a
> > > 3
> > > core. The tanks are the same, and the cores are not very much
> > > different
> > > in
> > > thickness. The 4 core uses slightly smaller cores, but has 4 of them.
> > > It
> > > can
> > > pass more water due to the added core, but it is only about 25% more,
> not
> > > 33% as you might expect.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Aaron Graham" <aarons48willys@NOSPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:aarons48willys-41B7DB.12093210072003@news2.localnet.com...
> > > > Hi-
> > > > As some of you may know I had my fan hit my radiator last month
> > > > while
> > > > 4-wheeling. I replaced the radiato, body mounts, and transmission
> > > > mount. I went 4 wheeling July 5th and had it happen again, not as
> > > > bad
> > > > this time, it just grazed the radiator. I have played around with
> > > > my
> > > > radiator some now and have it so there is about 1 inch of space
> between
> > > > the fan and radiator(still not enough in my mind).
> > > >
> > > > I have seen on this site:
> > > > http://members.***.net/~mhelmstetter...or_measure.jpg
> > > > the he has 2 5/8".
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to find what everyone else normally has in a CJ with a
> 258.
> > > >
> > > > I see that he has a 2 core radiator where I have a 3 core so that
> > > > is
> > > > part of the difference.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I can tell my transmission and motor mounts are all good
> > > > and
> > > > aligned correctly.
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron Graham
> > > > http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
> > > > 1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
> > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Aaron Graham
> > http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
> > 1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
> > o_o_o_o
> > /| ,[_____],
> > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>
>
--
Aaron Graham
http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)

Jeff

Behind the dash on the drivers side on the upper veritcal part where the
door/ windshield hinges mount is where 4wd has a label and serial number,
"Aaron Graham" <aarons48willys@NOSPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
news:aarons48willys-6230C7.23280611072003@news2.localnet.com...
> In article <UFHPa.38271$H17.11817@sccrnsc02>, "Jeff"
> <**jtbrown@insightbb.com**> wrote:
>
> > I have a 4wd hardware tub, it hangs about 1/4 inch off rear member, and
I
> > have 1 5/8 to the radiator fins, I ran into a guy with a cj5 tub form
> > aj's
> > and he has eaten 2 radiator's he finnal;y went to a pusher elec fan.
>
> I am really thinking about going to an electric, especially since I live
> in upstate NY where the temps don't get that hot.
>
> I have been reading alot about the Taurus fan swap...
>
>
> I also find it amazing the fiberglass tub makers don't mark their tubs
> in anyway. I don't know who made my tub as it was installed by a
> previous owner.
>
>
>
> > "Aaron Graham" <aarons48willys@NOSPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> > news:aarons48willys-860759.13193110072003@news2.localnet.com...
> > > In article <vgr6cqfditnab8@corp.supernews.com>, "Jeff Strickland"
> > > <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I haven't measured my fan to radiator distance, but I would guess
> > > > that
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > in the inch to inch and a half range.
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure the body mounts are all tight and not broken?
> > >
> > > Just replaced them all with new bushings and bolts.
> > >
> > > Also, are you
> > > > sure the radiator mounts in the grill are not broken? The last time
> > > > we
> > > > spoke, I went home and looked at mine, and the grill section of the
> > > > body
> > > > is
> > > > broken near the bottom radiator mount bolts.
> > >
> > > The bottom of the grill is rusted pretty bad, but if I try to move the
> > > radiator it just makes the back parts where radiator bolts to flex.
> > >
> > > I also had the fan deliver
> > > > the
> > > > kiss of death to my raditor a few years ago, and the radiator mounts
> > that
> > > > bolt to the inside of the grill had actually broken the welds on the
> > > > radiator tank.
> > > >
> > > > You can look at the arc of the contact point and determine which
side
> > > > is
> > > > allowing the radiator to move around, perhaps you can get a clue
> > > > here.
> > >
> > > It is arc'd across the top, but my radiator is also not completely
> > > vertical, slightly tilted back at the top. Not sure exactly why but I
> > > believe it is due to the rusted out bottom. I ned to take the grill
> > > out
> > > to see exactly what is wrong. It could just be that the grill was
> > > installed wrong as the fenders only attach using the top two bolts,
the
> > > bottom bolt does not line up with the fender(or it could be the
> > > fiberglass fenders are made wrong).
> > >
> > >
> > > I will try to take some pictures tonight to explain everything
> > > better...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I had a 4 core, the the kiss of death resulted in replacing it with
a
> > > > 3
> > > > core. The tanks are the same, and the cores are not very much
> > > > different
> > > > in
> > > > thickness. The 4 core uses slightly smaller cores, but has 4 of
them.
> > > > It
> > > > can
> > > > pass more water due to the added core, but it is only about 25%
more,
> > not
> > > > 33% as you might expect.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron Graham" <aarons48willys@NOSPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:aarons48willys-41B7DB.12093210072003@news2.localnet.com...
> > > > > Hi-
> > > > > As some of you may know I had my fan hit my radiator last month
> > > > > while
> > > > > 4-wheeling. I replaced the radiato, body mounts, and transmission
> > > > > mount. I went 4 wheeling July 5th and had it happen again, not as
> > > > > bad
> > > > > this time, it just grazed the radiator. I have played around with
> > > > > my
> > > > > radiator some now and have it so there is about 1 inch of space
> > between
> > > > > the fan and radiator(still not enough in my mind).
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen on this site:
> > > > > http://members.***.net/~mhelmstetter...or_measure.jpg
> > > > > the he has 2 5/8".
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to find what everyone else normally has in a CJ with a
> > 258.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see that he has a 2 core radiator where I have a 3 core so that
> > > > > is
> > > > > part of the difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I can tell my transmission and motor mounts are all good
> > > > > and
> > > > > aligned correctly.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Aaron Graham
> > > > > http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
> > > > > 1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
> > > > > o_o_o_o
> > > > > /| ,[_____],
> > > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron Graham
> > > http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
> > > 1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
> > > o_o_o_o
> > > /| ,[_____],
> > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> >
> >
> --
> Aaron Graham
> http://homepage.mac.com/aarongraham
> 1948 ****** & 1979 CJ7
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)