CJ Tub replacement
11-19-2003, 11:42 AM
#31
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
Kevin Sperle wrote:
> Finally bit the bullet and bought a new (used) CJ tub. It needs some body
> work but is in much better shape than mine. A PO installed carpet in there
> and I spent quite a bit of time scraping it out. Got the bulk of it off,
> but a lot of glued down stuff remains.
>
> I guess my options are sand the entire tub down or have it sandblasted.
> Keep in mind I want to do the exterior and underside as well.
>
> Question:
>
> Any idea what I could expect to pay to have it sandblasted?
>
> Do rental places rent sandblasters? Is it pretty easy to do yourself?
Yes, and they are pretty easy but as others have noted it's not a very
good way to strip a whole paint job off. Use blasting for rust spots, if
you have a big compressor (4hp or more) you can buy a pressurized tank
blaster from harbor freight for around 75 to 150 bucks that will do just
fine for spots.
Use an orbital or palm sander for scuffing the old paint, it's easy
enough and striping all the old paint off is a bad idea anyway (think of
the old paint as multiple layer rust protection. Should the new paint
get scratched you'll have something under it besides bare metal.
Also old original paint is usually going to be harder than just about
any paint you can apply.
For that carpet glue, get yourself a gallon of xylol, wipe a spot...
wait a few seconds and hit the same area again. Then get to scrapping.
It should come off pretty easy with a nice sharpened putty knife. Xylol
melts the crap out of carpet glue. It'll take a while but sand blasting
wont do s**t to it. This applies on the underside too... built up grease
old undercoating etc. is going to have to be removed with chemicals or
elbow grease, or some combination of both. I would degrease the
underside with engine degreaser, and then scrape heavy stuff, and
finally sand.
And for all of this, get yourself a good respirator rated for chemicals
xylol is potent stuff, and sand silicosis can be lethal.
11-19-2003, 03:40 PM
#32
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
11-19-2003, 03:40 PM
#33
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
11-19-2003, 03:40 PM
#34
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
paid with your life.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Many moons ago I used to blast for a living. We did everything from trucks,
> tankers (inside/outside), barges, cars etc. Using a 4" hose and 600 psi at
> the nozzle, you'd be surprised how nice a finish you can get if you're
> patient. I frequently grit blasted 22 gauge sheet metal without distortion
> and the pitting was easily overcome with a quality primer... or 3 coats of
> rattle can primer. It was a dream booth, room enough for 2 tractor trailers
> or train cars side by side... no shovelling, grated floor with recovery
> system. Blasting inside tanks was always fun.... two guys, one on the hose,
> one on the vacuum.
>
> Bead blasting, or better yet "black beauty" is almost foolproof, sand can be
> tricky but it's cheap. The trick is taking your time... multiple passes
> using a brush blast technique. If I was still in the business I would charge
> 2 hrs @ $100/hr with no prep.. roll it in, roll it out.
>
> If there was a hot tank in town big enough I wonder what they would charge.
> I used to pay $60 for a block (two dips), $10/head and $10 for the intake...
> about 15 years ago!
> -Brian
11-19-2003, 04:03 PM
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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: Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
: paid with your life.
They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
-Brian
11-19-2003, 04:03 PM
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FBBD552.8DC19619@***.net...
: Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
: paid with your life.
They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
-Brian
11-19-2003, 04:03 PM
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FBBD552.8DC19619@***.net...
: Your job inside the tank was soooo dangerous, I hope you haven't
: paid with your life.
They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
-Brian
11-19-2003, 06:24 PM
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
So you're lungs are still filled with silica. I imagine the "Black
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian
11-19-2003, 06:24 PM
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
So you're lungs are still filled with silica. I imagine the "Black
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian
11-19-2003, 06:24 PM
#40
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Re: CJ Tub replacement
So you're lungs are still filled with silica. I imagine the "Black
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian
Beauty", obsidian: volcanic glass will look pretty in your X-rays. Good
luck, man, I'll be praying for you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> They were new... blast off the surface rust and prep for linings.
> -Brian