CJ starting problems
05-07-2005, 06:48 PM
#11
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Re: CJ starting problems
Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
05-07-2005, 06:48 PM
#12
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Re: CJ starting problems
Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
05-07-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: CJ starting problems
Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
>
> Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
>> ago,
>> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
>> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
>> only
>> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
>> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
>> 258,
>> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
>> 5th
>> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
>> all
>> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
>> I
>> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
>> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
>> don't
>> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
>> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
>> far
>> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
>> don't
>> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
>> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
>> 86
>> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
>> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
05-07-2005, 07:25 PM
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Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
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Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
05-07-2005, 07:25 PM
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Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
05-07-2005, 07:25 PM
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Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
05-07-2005, 07:25 PM
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Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
05-11-2005, 09:00 AM
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Re: CJ starting problems
I think my tires are killing the hubs. The 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
05-11-2005, 09:00 AM
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Re: CJ starting problems
I think my tires are killing the hubs. The 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
05-11-2005, 09:00 AM
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Re: CJ starting problems
I think my tires are killing the hubs. The 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.
I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.