CJ horn button assembly
01-21-2004, 06:17 PM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
01-21-2004, 06:17 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
01-21-2004, 06:17 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
when all is assembled correctly.
There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
horn.
There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
correctly.
If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
the flat metal spring
the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
cup-like part on
the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
put
> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >
> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> remind
> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> > putting
> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> doesn't
> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
metal
> > oval
> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
there
> is
> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> rebounds...what
> > am
> > > I missing here?!?!
> > > Allen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
01-22-2004, 01:05 AM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
01-22-2004, 01:05 AM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
01-22-2004, 01:05 AM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
some other pages of use are listed directly below
Other Steering column help pages of use:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
>When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
>only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When the
>wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar to
>that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
>and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
>part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part that I
>have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
>replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the plastic
>sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
>Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if you
>look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
>which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
>three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically, these
>parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal plate
>is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn button.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
>three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
>probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
>holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup only
>fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
>when all is assembled correctly.
>
>There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
>all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball point
>pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
>that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is grounded
>through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down, you
>connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a relay
>and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply the
>ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
>horn.
>
>There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
>working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
>correctly.
>
>If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
>
>three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>the flat metal spring
>the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
>three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold the
>cup-like part on
>the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
>a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
>a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
>an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
>
>
>My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade, but
>I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it is a
>Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and the
>hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that would
>come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
>rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as long
>as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option ...
>Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
>similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
>arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different. The
>steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
>Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
>> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel that
>> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring with
>> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod like
>> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
>>
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
>> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to be
>put
>> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
>> >
>> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
>> remind
>> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
>> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
>> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
>> > putting
>> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
>> doesn't
>> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
>metal
>> > oval
>> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
>there
>> is
>> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of that.
>> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
>> rebounds...what
>> > am
>> > > I missing here?!?!
>> > > Allen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
01-22-2004, 12:26 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Those pics are great.
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
01-22-2004, 12:26 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Those pics are great.
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
01-22-2004, 12:26 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ horn button assembly
Those pics are great.
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-1.jpg
>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
broken like mine is. ;-)
"Jeepster" <yj_driver_NO_SPAM@excite.com> wrote in message
news:38pu009sdrq7l7fns9v4qn1l3okt5mu8as@4ax.com...
> Here are some good images of a basic Jeep steering column, it might
> help, I used this info when I tightened my column up last month....
> some other pages of use are listed directly below
>
> Other Steering column help pages of use:
> http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/column.shtml
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html
> http://www.necoa.org/article95.html
>
> Jeep Steering column Images shown here:
> http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...Column-Repair/
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:17:45 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I am working from memory here, so there may be an error or two.
>
http://elcaminocentral.com/articles/...n/DCP_0748.JPG
> >When I put the steering wheel on, I have to orientate it correctly -- not
> >only for straight ahead, but also for the horn electrical contact. When
the
> >wheel is on right, there is a hole in it that allows a spring - similar
to
> >that which might be found in a ballpoint pen - and a plunger. This spring
> >and plunger is encapsulated in a plastic sleeve to isolate it. (When this
> >part touches ground, the horn will honk.) My plunger is the only part
that I
> >have in here that is still the stock part. The spring has long since been
> >replaced with one that actually came from a ball point pen, and the
plastic
> >sleeve has been replaced with a straw from Mc Donalds.
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-4.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-5.jpg
>
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/...J-column-6.jpg
> >Then, there is a flat, round, metal plate that is not really flat -- if
you
> >look at it closely, you will notice it is concave or convex, depending on
> >which way you are holding it -- that is held by a plastic ring that has
> >three small screws that mount it to the steering wheel hub. Basically,
these
> >parts fit around the nut that holds the steering wheel on. The metal
plate
> >is actually a spring that offers the return when you press the horn
button.
>
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>
> >Then, there is a cup-like piece that has a plastic piece which fits into
> >three small holes. Small is a relative term, I suppose -- these holes are
> >probably on the order of 3/8". There are insulators that fit into these
> >holes, and screws through the insulators that hold the cup on. The cup
only
> >fits one way, and the horn button itself will clip to the rim of the cup
> >when all is assembled correctly.
> >
> >There is 12v sitting on the underside of the flat spring in the center of
> >all of this stuff (via the spring that looks like it came from a ball
point
> >pen). It is pressing the cup up against the bottom of plastic insulators
> >that fit into the three holes that are 3/8". The steering wheel is
grounded
> >through the steering column shaft. When you press the horn button down,
you
> >connect it to ground. The electrical path is battery power through a
relay
> >and up to the horn button. When the horn button is pressed, you supply
the
> >ground to power the relay, which closes contacts that send juice to the
> >horn.
> >
> >There are parts under the steering wheel that will keep the horn from
> >working, even if the stuff above the steering wheel is all put together
> >correctly.
> >
> >If I attempted to inventory the parts, I would have ...
> >
> >three small screws that hold the plastic ring around the flat metal
spring
> >the flat metal spring
> >the plastic ring around the flat metal spring
> >three plastic insulators and three appropriately sized screws that hold
the
> >cup-like part on
> >the cup-like part that the horn button clips to
> >a spring that looks like it came out of a ball point pen
> >a plunger that fits on the spring that came from a ball point pen
> >an insulator that isolates the plunger and ballpoint pen spring
> >
> >
> >My steering wheel is the tilt steering, and I think my CJ is a Renegade,
but
> >I am not sure on that detail. (My hood has lettering on it that says it
is a
> >Renegade, but I thought that Renegades were CJ7s and I have a CJ5, and
the
> >hoods are interchangable. I do not seem to have any other stuff that
would
> >come with a Renegade package, except that I have some kind of aluminum
> >rocker guards that have been parked in the corner of my garage for as
long
> >as I have owned my Jeep.) I suppose tilt steering is a Renegade option
....
> >Maybe Loredos are CJ7s and Renegades are CJ5s, they have the same - or
> >similar options - for each of these models. Either way, I don't think the
> >arrangement of the horn button parts would be significantly different.
The
> >steering parts are common with GM, so maybe you can find a diagram in a
> >Hanyes or Chilton manual that you have out in the garage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:MzsPb.39095$f97.18360@fe3.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >> I think there were two different assemblys. Mine is a "sport" wheel
that
> >> came with a Laredo or some other high end CJ. Doesn't have any spring
with
> >> it. That is according to the Chiltons too. Now there is a metal rod
like
> >> that comes out of the column..but this doesn't come off with the wheel.
> >>
> >> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:100roerp6s1nj25@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > The plastic part with the metal plate inside is a spring. It has to
be
> >put
> >> > together the right way or it doesn't spring right.
> >> >
> >> > There is also a small plunger-like part that has a spring that might
> >> remind
> >> > you of the spring inside of a ball point pen. This is the electrical
> >> > connection that makes the whole thing work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Allen" <abanks1@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:r3lPb.37536$f97.11014@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >> > > I took apart my steering wheel a while back to work on the dash. In
> >> > putting
> >> > > it back on..I can't seem to get the horn assembly to work right It
> >> doesn't
> >> > > rebound when I push it in. There are basically 3 parts..the sheet
> >metal
> >> > oval
> >> > > piece that I think is supposed to be the part that rebounds, then
> >there
> >> is
> >> > > the metal cup like thing with the plastic piece in the middle of
that.
> >> > > Pretty simple. Does this oval piece need to be bent so it
> >> rebounds...what
> >> > am
> >> > > I missing here?!?!
> >> > > Allen
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
01-22-2004, 05:34 PM
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Re: CJ horn button assembly
I broke the very part your talking about when put mine back together,
I ended up going to pick your part and taking apart a column and
scavanging a bunch of spare parts out of it. That guy has a ton of
pics on his site and a bunch of scanned images of wiring and vacuum
hose routings, you just have to dig around a bunch to fit what you
want.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/FSJ-TECH/
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:26:01 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Those pics are great.
>
>The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
>to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
>electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
>plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
>part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
>broken like mine is. ;-)
>
>
>
I ended up going to pick your part and taking apart a column and
scavanging a bunch of spare parts out of it. That guy has a ton of
pics on his site and a bunch of scanned images of wiring and vacuum
hose routings, you just have to dig around a bunch to fit what you
want.
http://www.wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/FSJ-TECH/
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:26:01 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Those pics are great.
>
>The OP only was trying to get his horn working again, but it might help him
>to see the underlying parts. I was not aware that mine was broken where the
>electrical contact comes up through the steering wheel hub. I thought the
>plastic part that does the insulation duties was supposed to be a separate
>part. It is lots easier to work with this contact if the plastic is not
>broken like mine is. ;-)
>
>
>
