Curtis Geiger

I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
could blink.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
> the tub.
>
> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
> will likely crack at the bend...
>
> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
> faster than you can blink.
>
> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Charles Ervin wrote:
>> Hey Group,
>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>> about?
>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Charles E.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message
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> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message
news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com...
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message
news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com...
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message
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> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.

Mike Romain

Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder.

Mike

Curtis Geiger wrote:
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
>> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
>> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
>> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
>> the tub.
>>
>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
>> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
>> will likely crack at the bend...
>>
>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
>> faster than you can blink.
>>
>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
>> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Charles Ervin wrote:
>>> Hey Group,
>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>>> about?
>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> Charles E.
>
>

Mike Romain

Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder.

Mike

Curtis Geiger wrote:
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
>> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
>> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
>> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
>> the tub.
>>
>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
>> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
>> will likely crack at the bend...
>>
>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
>> faster than you can blink.
>>
>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
>> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Charles Ervin wrote:
>>> Hey Group,
>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>>> about?
>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> Charles E.
>
>

Mike Romain

Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder.

Mike

Curtis Geiger wrote:
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
>> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
>> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
>> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
>> the tub.
>>
>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
>> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
>> will likely crack at the bend...
>>
>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
>> faster than you can blink.
>>
>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
>> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Charles Ervin wrote:
>>> Hey Group,
>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>>> about?
>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> Charles E.
>
>

Mike Romain

Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder.

Mike

Curtis Geiger wrote:
> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
> could blink.
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
>> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
>> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
>> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
>> the tub.
>>
>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
>> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
>> will likely crack at the bend...
>>
>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
>> faster than you can blink.
>>
>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
>> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Charles Ervin wrote:
>>> Hey Group,
>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>>> about?
>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> Charles E.
>
>

Charles Ervin

Hi Guys,
I just returned from a 4 day business trip and caught up on the posts. My
sincere thanks to everyone. I'm gonna ditch the rear disc idea for now but
will go with a kit when the time is right. I'm also gonna go with a 1" body
lift. I've recently (in the last couple of years) replaced all the body
bushings and bolts so I'll be okay on that project. I'll post a pic when I
get the new body and all the pretty new shiny stuff on her.
Thanks again,
Charles

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45c2aafa$0$10408$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward. The
> rolling back tires act like a rudder.
>
> Mike
>
> Curtis Geiger wrote:
>> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as
>> you could blink.
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on
>>> how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven
>>> CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden
>>> weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece
>>> when I stripped the tub.
>>>
>>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
>>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for
>>> fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the
>>> hose, it will likely crack at the bend...
>>>
>>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
>>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
>>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
>>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do
>>> 360's faster than you can blink.
>>>
>>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the
>>> new type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Charles Ervin wrote:
>>>> Hey Group,
>>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are
>>>> there any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need
>>>> to think about?
>>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on
>>>> the rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear
>>>> disc brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper
>>>> brackets and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can
>>>> procure calipers and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done
>>>> this I'd like to find out what the applications are for the calipers
>>>> and rotors that you used.
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>> Charles E.
>>