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Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
could blink. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how > close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not > one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or > snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped > the tub. > > You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these > and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill > and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it > will likely crack at the bend... > > I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short > vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a > combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the > brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's > faster than you can blink. > > I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new > type of brakes would be a major undertaking. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Charles Ervin wrote: >> Hey Group, >> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there >> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think >> about? >> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the >> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc >> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets >> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers >> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find >> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used. >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> Charles E. |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com... > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com... > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com... > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
After, many blown out rear tires on bikes and Jeeps, and one transfer
lockup has shown me it's all I can do to keep the front pointed forward. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Curtis Geiger" <cngeiger@filertel.com> wrote in message news:12s53mgt0m749fd@corp.supernews.com... > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder. Mike Curtis Geiger wrote: > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how >> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not >> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or >> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped >> the tub. >> >> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these >> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill >> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it >> will likely crack at the bend... >> >> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short >> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a >> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the >> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's >> faster than you can blink. >> >> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new >> type of brakes would be a major undertaking. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> Charles Ervin wrote: >>> Hey Group, >>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there >>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think >>> about? >>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the >>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc >>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets >>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers >>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find >>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used. >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> Charles E. > > |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder. Mike Curtis Geiger wrote: > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how >> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not >> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or >> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped >> the tub. >> >> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these >> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill >> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it >> will likely crack at the bend... >> >> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short >> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a >> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the >> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's >> faster than you can blink. >> >> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new >> type of brakes would be a major undertaking. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> Charles Ervin wrote: >>> Hey Group, >>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there >>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think >>> about? >>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the >>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc >>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets >>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers >>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find >>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used. >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> Charles E. > > |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder. Mike Curtis Geiger wrote: > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how >> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not >> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or >> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped >> the tub. >> >> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these >> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill >> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it >> will likely crack at the bend... >> >> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short >> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a >> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the >> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's >> faster than you can blink. >> >> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new >> type of brakes would be a major undertaking. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> Charles Ervin wrote: >>> Hey Group, >>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there >>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think >>> about? >>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the >>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc >>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets >>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers >>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find >>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used. >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> Charles E. > > |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward.
The rolling back tires act like a rudder. Mike Curtis Geiger wrote: > I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you > could blink. > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how >> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not >> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or >> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped >> the tub. >> >> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these >> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill >> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it >> will likely crack at the bend... >> >> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short >> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a >> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the >> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's >> faster than you can blink. >> >> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new >> type of brakes would be a major undertaking. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> Charles Ervin wrote: >>> Hey Group, >>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there >>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think >>> about? >>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the >>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc >>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets >>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers >>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find >>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used. >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> Charles E. > > |
Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
Hi Guys,
I just returned from a 4 day business trip and caught up on the posts. My sincere thanks to everyone. I'm gonna ditch the rear disc idea for now but will go with a kit when the time is right. I'm also gonna go with a 1" body lift. I've recently (in the last couple of years) replaced all the body bushings and bolts so I'll be okay on that project. I'll post a pic when I get the new body and all the pretty new shiny stuff on her. Thanks again, Charles "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45c2aafa$0$10408$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > Nope, that just makes you lose steering control as you slide forward. The > rolling back tires act like a rudder. > > Mike > > Curtis Geiger wrote: >> I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as >> you could blink. >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... >>> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on >>> how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven >>> CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden >>> weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece >>> when I stripped the tub. >>> >>> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these >>> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for >>> fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the >>> hose, it will likely crack at the bend... >>> >>> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short >>> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a >>> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the >>> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do >>> 360's faster than you can blink. >>> >>> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the >>> new type of brakes would be a major undertaking. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> Charles Ervin wrote: >>>> Hey Group, >>>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to >>>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to >>>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is >>>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are >>>> there any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need >>>> to think about? >>>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on >>>> the rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear >>>> disc brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper >>>> brackets and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can >>>> procure calipers and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done >>>> this I'd like to find out what the applications are for the calipers >>>> and rotors that you used. >>>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>>> Charles E. >> |
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