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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 01-31-2007 09:27 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Good luck, Richard.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Nope, Retire in October, I'm going fishing, on top of a mountain

somewhere!
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits

F/R,
> 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 01-31-2007 09:27 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Good luck, Richard.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:85cwh.6287$yB5.1499@trndny03...
> Nope, Retire in October, I'm going fishing, on top of a mountain

somewhere!
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits

F/R,
> 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 01-31-2007 09:27 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Good luck, Richard.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:85cwh.6287$yB5.1499@trndny03...
> Nope, Retire in October, I'm going fishing, on top of a mountain

somewhere!
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits

F/R,
> 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.




Mike Romain 02-01-2007 11:22 AM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on
how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven
CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden
weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece
when I stripped the tub.

You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for
fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the
hose, it will likely crack at the bend...

I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do
360's faster than you can blink.

I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the
new type of brakes would be a major undertaking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Charles Ervin wrote:
> Hey Group,
> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to highway @
> 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to frame lift).
> Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is there anything else
> I should be considering before doing this? Are there any stability /
> suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think about?
> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Charles E.
>
>


Mike Romain 02-01-2007 11:22 AM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on
how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven
CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden
weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece
when I stripped the tub.

You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for
fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the
hose, it will likely crack at the bend...

I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do
360's faster than you can blink.

I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the
new type of brakes would be a major undertaking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Charles Ervin wrote:
> Hey Group,
> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to highway @
> 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to frame lift).
> Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is there anything else
> I should be considering before doing this? Are there any stability /
> suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think about?
> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Charles E.
>
>


Mike Romain 02-01-2007 11:22 AM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on
how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven
CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden
weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece
when I stripped the tub.

You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for
fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the
hose, it will likely crack at the bend...

I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do
360's faster than you can blink.

I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the
new type of brakes would be a major undertaking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Charles Ervin wrote:
> Hey Group,
> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to highway @
> 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to frame lift).
> Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is there anything else
> I should be considering before doing this? Are there any stability /
> suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think about?
> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Charles E.
>
>


Mike Romain 02-01-2007 11:22 AM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on
how close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven
CJ7, not one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden
weld nut or snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece
when I stripped the tub.

You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for
fill and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the
hose, it will likely crack at the bend...

I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do
360's faster than you can blink.

I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the
new type of brakes would be a major undertaking.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Charles Ervin wrote:
> Hey Group,
> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to highway @
> 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to frame lift).
> Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is there anything else
> I should be considering before doing this? Are there any stability /
> suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think about?
> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Charles E.
>
>


Curtis Geiger 02-01-2007 08:07 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
could blink.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
> the tub.
>
> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
> will likely crack at the bend...
>
> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
> faster than you can blink.
>
> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Charles Ervin wrote:
>> Hey Group,
>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>> about?
>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Charles E.




Curtis Geiger 02-01-2007 08:07 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
could blink.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
> the tub.
>
> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
> will likely crack at the bend...
>
> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
> faster than you can blink.
>
> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Charles Ervin wrote:
>> Hey Group,
>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>> about?
>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Charles E.




Curtis Geiger 02-01-2007 08:07 PM

Re: CJ Body lift question / Rear Disc Brake question / Bill H. ??????
 
I would think the front brakes locking up would cause a 360 as fast as you
could blink.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45c21362$0$6587$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Just be aware that a body lift on a CJ can be a 'big' job depending on how
> close to the rust belt your Jeep has been. On my Canadian driven CJ7, not
> one body mount bolt came out. They all either spun the hidden weld nut or
> snapped off. Only one fender bolt came out in one piece when I stripped
> the tub.
>
> You also will have issues with the gas filler hoses. You can cut these
> and put a copper pipe in the middle as an extension. One big one for fill
> and one small for fill vent. If you just bend and stretch the hose, it
> will likely crack at the bend...
>
> I don't know that I would 'want' disk brakes on the back of such a short
> vehicle. As it is, the rear drum brakes have to use a
> combination/proportioning valve so they don't lock up when you hit the
> brakes hard. When rear brakes lock up on something so short, you do 360's
> faster than you can blink.
>
> I think dialing in the proper combination/proportioning valve for the new
> type of brakes would be a major undertaking.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Charles Ervin wrote:
>> Hey Group,
>> I have a 84 CJ 7 (4.2, T-5, 31/10.50/15) that is very easy to
>> highway @ 70 mph. I'm wanting to do a 2 inch body lift ( as opposed to
>> frame lift). Other than Steering Column and Clutch linkage issues, is
>> there anything else I should be considering before doing this? Are there
>> any stability / suspension / steering / drivetrain issues I need to think
>> about?
>> And while I have your attention... I'd like to put disc brakes on the
>> rear. Has anyone out there cobbled together a home version of rear disc
>> brakes with any success? I feel sure I can fabricate the Caliper brackets
>> and (since I run an auto Parts Store) believe that I can procure calipers
>> and rotors at a reasonable cost. If anyone has done this I'd like to find
>> out what the applications are for the calipers and rotors that you used.
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Charles E.





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