Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
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Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
Read this page, <http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=9_292>. It describes
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
Read this page, <http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=9_292>. It describes
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
Read this page, <http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=9_292>. It describes
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
what fuel injection can be like, if done right. But as I said before, once
you get to the point in life, where you have the money, you start to realize
the value of time.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4341E4D1.128FC4A7@sympatico.ca...
> The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
> power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
> Convenience vs performance...
>
> I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
> tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
> $20.00 carb kit in it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
> >
> > Earle,
> >
> > I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money.
It
> > gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies
once
> > or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> > provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this
is
> > after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
> >
> > I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though.
You'll
> > still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what
you
> > > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> > >
> > > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other
aftermarket
> > > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see
it
> > > as a detriment,"
> > >
> > > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more
valuable
> > > than
> > > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for
your
> > > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then
you
> > > can
> > > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other
hand,
> > > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > > make
> > > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you
would
> > > not be asking.
> > >
> > > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> > >>
>
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