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Bret Ludwig 10-03-2005 04:50 PM

Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
http://www.megasquirt.info/


Earle Horton 10-03-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more questions.
I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you are likely to
encounter with a product like this.

"MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it as
a detriment,"

Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable than
money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you can
save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to make
a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
not be asking.

What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>




Earle Horton 10-03-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more questions.
I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you are likely to
encounter with a product like this.

"MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it as
a detriment,"

Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable than
money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you can
save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to make
a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
not be asking.

What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>




Earle Horton 10-03-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more questions.
I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you are likely to
encounter with a product like this.

"MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it as
a detriment,"

Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable than
money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you can
save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to make
a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
not be asking.

What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>




Michael White 10-03-2005 09:01 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Earle,

I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.

I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Earle Horton wrote:

> Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> are likely to encounter with a product like this.
>
> "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> as a detriment,"
>
> Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> than
> money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> can
> save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> make
> a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> not be asking.
>
> What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
>
> Earle
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>>



Michael White 10-03-2005 09:01 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Earle,

I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.

I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Earle Horton wrote:

> Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> are likely to encounter with a product like this.
>
> "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> as a detriment,"
>
> Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> than
> money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> can
> save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> make
> a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> not be asking.
>
> What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
>
> Earle
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>>



Michael White 10-03-2005 09:01 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
Earle,

I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.

I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Earle Horton wrote:

> Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> are likely to encounter with a product like this.
>
> "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> as a detriment,"
>
> Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> than
> money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> can
> save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> make
> a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> not be asking.
>
> What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
>
> Earle
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> http://www.megasquirt.info/
>>



Mike Romain 10-03-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
Convenience vs performance...

I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
$20.00 carb kit in it....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
> gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
> or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
> after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
>
> I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
> still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> >
> > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> > as a detriment,"
> >
> > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> > than
> > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> > can
> > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > make
> > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> > not be asking.
> >
> > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> >>


Mike Romain 10-03-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
Convenience vs performance...

I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
$20.00 carb kit in it....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
> gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
> or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
> after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
>
> I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
> still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> >
> > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> > as a detriment,"
> >
> > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> > than
> > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> > can
> > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > make
> > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> > not be asking.
> >
> > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> >>


Mike Romain 10-03-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Chrysler's Retrofit FI Blows. Is This A Better Alternative?
 
The 2 BBL carb on those 4.2's beats the crap out of any FI going for
power and mileage. You only do away with the need to tune up a carb.
Convenience vs performance...

I'll take the performance and gas mileage any day because I don't mind
tweaking tune ups or spending an hour every two or three years putting a
$20.00 carb kit in it....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> I've got one of those Mopar MPFI kits, and they're not worth the money. It
> gets worse mileage, has worse cold-running performance (usually dies once
> or twice in cool weather, where cool is 60 degrees or cooler), doesn't
> provide that much more HP or torque, and is really expensive. And this is
> after many calls to Hesco and the replacement of many parts.
>
> I don't think the kit below will save you a ton of money, though. You'll
> still need most of the Mopar MPFI parts.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > Cool item. Your question is hard to answer, without asking more
> > questions. I think that this, from the web site, about sums up what you
> > are likely to encounter with a product like this.
> >
> > "MegaSquirt requires, and develops, a number skills that other aftermarket
> > ECUs don't require. Some would see [this] as a bonus, others would see it
> > as a detriment,"
> >
> > Look at it another way. Are you old enough, that time is more valuable
> > than
> > money? If so, you really want an engineered and tested solution for your
> > particular application. If you have all the time in the world, then you
> > can
> > save some money, maybe, by building your own system. On the other hand,
> > there are people, who could use a product like this, without having to
> > make
> > a substantial investment of time. You are not one of them, else you would
> > not be asking.
> >
> > What exactly is it about the Chrysler retrofit, that blows?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1128372610.237818.213840@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> http://www.megasquirt.info/
> >>



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