Chrysler may be sold
03-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
03-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
03-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
....well, what about the Sprinter, the 5-speed automatics, and (unless
I'm mistaken) the basis for the 4.7 & up engines?
03-06-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
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88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
03-06-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
03-06-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
That is pretty old news there Bret...
Full moon or something?
Oh eclipse, right....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Bret Ludwig wrote:
> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>
> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
> engineering.
>
> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>
03-06-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
On Mar 6, 4:43 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
03-06-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
On Mar 6, 4:43 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
03-06-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
On Mar 6, 4:43 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
> It would appear you just crawled out from under a rock or something...
>
> That is pretty old news there Bret...
>
> Full moon or something?
>
> Oh eclipse, right....
>
What's more news is the concrete fact that DCX management is sitting
down with private capital firms to actually do a deal.
03-06-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: Chrysler may be sold
We leased a brand-new Honda Odessey a few years back. Imagine our suprise
when we found a ten-inch-wide puddle of oil under the engine when we pulled
out of the garage on the second day. It was in the shop a total of 4 weeks
in our first two months of ownership. Eventually they had to buy it back
under Michigan's lemon law because the dealership could never fix it.
And the DVD player screen was all screwed up, too.
Better engineered, maybe, maybe not. The arrogance of "This never happens
with Hondas" we encountered at every turn has put me off the brand for good.
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LglHh.2880$tv6.2736@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> yeah or toyota
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:PpednVwBcYxwQ3DYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> If you are willing to talk price/quality optimization, I submit that
>> Hondas
>> are the best engineered car in the world.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1173216259.971728.61600@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
>>> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>>>
>>> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
>>> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
>>> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
>>> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
>>> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
>>> engineering.
>>>
>>> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
>>> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
>>> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
>>> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
>>> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
>>> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
when we found a ten-inch-wide puddle of oil under the engine when we pulled
out of the garage on the second day. It was in the shop a total of 4 weeks
in our first two months of ownership. Eventually they had to buy it back
under Michigan's lemon law because the dealership could never fix it.
And the DVD player screen was all screwed up, too.
Better engineered, maybe, maybe not. The arrogance of "This never happens
with Hondas" we encountered at every turn has put me off the brand for good.
"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LglHh.2880$tv6.2736@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> yeah or toyota
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:PpednVwBcYxwQ3DYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> If you are willing to talk price/quality optimization, I submit that
>> Hondas
>> are the best engineered car in the world.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1173216259.971728.61600@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>>> The word now is that DCX may split Chrysler (and certainly Jeep will
>>> go with it) off from its corporate structure.
>>>
>>> DCX has been a failure not because of Chrysler, but because of German
>>> management who refuse to make good on the idea under which the merger
>>> was founded...that the two would benefit from American manufacturing
>>> (cheaper than German and with good quality given good management, as
>>> the Japanese US plants and Saturn have proved) and branding and German
>>> engineering.
>>>
>>> Mechanically, the Mercedes Benz is mostly still the best engineered
>>> car in the world. Most of its issues have been electrical. But DCX has
>>> refused to take advantage of US design at all in its products (they
>>> should have bought Delphi when it was in trouble) and also refused to
>>> put the better pieces of Mercedes engineering in the US product,
>>> claiming it would dilute the exclusivity of Mercedes products.
>>>
>>
>>
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