Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
05-23-2007, 03:27 AM
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
In article <9536e$4653cafa$9440b19b$24421@STARBAND.NET>,
"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote:
> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes. But
> I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what do I
> know.
Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
the very fast moving cars.
I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
never in snow; thankfully.
"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote:
> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes. But
> I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what do I
> know.
Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
the very fast moving cars.
I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
never in snow; thankfully.
05-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:52:19 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
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>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
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TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:52:19 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:52:19 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:52:19 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>DC could afford to pay to dump Chrysler, they sucked cash out of
>Chrysler after the take over.
>That Chrysler cash got DC profitable again.
They lost their **** with that purchase and made nothing off of it.
Bought it for 35 billion and sold it for a bit over 7 billion. Chysler
has got not cash to carry them through unless they get major
concessions and many industry analists agree too.
>DC will still own part of Chrysler so I expect they will still benefit
>from Chryslers higher parts volume and lower costs.
>Also I expect Chrysler will still benefit from what they get from
>Mercedes.
>So both sides should be happy; at least for a while.
Only one side is happy here and it is not Chysler. I will be really
surprized if they are still around in a few years. Not that I want
them to fail but the deck is stacked against them right now.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:29:43 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
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TheSnoMan.com
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:29:43 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:29:43 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Wed, 23 May 2007 04:29:43 GMT, who <i@notaspammer.net> wrote:
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>Generally you're correct, but I've heard a number of hemi buyers say
>they changed from Mercedes to Chrysler because that drive train was
>almost half the price of the Mercedes.
To compare a Chysler hemi to the quality of a Mercedes motor and drive
train is very wishful thinking. The Hemi is well below it in
refinement.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-23-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
And on average S-Class Mercs put in very high annual mileages because senior
execs use them.
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
execs use them.
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
