"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:712af$44dfe018$48311eaf$32548@FUSE.NET...
> You responded to a message about thoughts I had to streamline my air
> intake with a comment about your system.
>
> I then responded that your system is sucking engine compartment air and
> later that 99% of the installations I have seen also sucked heated air
>
> If you are paying for a cold air intake then you shouldn't be sucking air
> from atop the exhaust manifold.
>
> As Bill commented later on standard factory intakes started ducting in
> cold air 30 years ago (and on HP engines 40 years ago.)
>
> The comment by.... (Earle?) about flipped over air cleaner covers was true
> to a point. We did it from the mid 60's to mid 70s and at that time we
> weren't bypassing much other than the heated air intake for winter
> (choked) operation. What this did was to bypass the restriction
> caused by the small factory snorkels on some engines.
>
> Whether it actually did any good was / is debatable
>

After this "modification" we got a lot of cool sucking sounds from under the
hood. ;^)

Earle

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> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> news:s3RDg.7533$oa1.4319@news02.roc.ny...
> > billy ray wrote:
> >>
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...gAnch=imgAnch1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
> >> news:9WPDg.7711$Oh1.642@news01.roc.ny...
> >>> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> >>>> Look again, virtually all SMOGed cars from the seventies on,
have
> >>>> a
> >>>> cold air induction. My old Bronco:
> >>>> http://www.----------.com/freshair.jpg
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>> mailto:-------------------- "Frank_v7.0" wrote:
> >>>>> The intake on the box that was taken off was in virtually the same
> >>>>> location in the engine compartment as the intake I had put on. How
> >>>>> could
> >>>>> the original get air from somewhere that the new intake couldn't?
> >>>>> There
> >>>>> was no "outside" intake on the original. And the original intake had
> >>>>> no
> >>>>> air dam/shield between it and the engine. I'm not making any radical
> >>>>> claims for the setup although I am very happy with my mileage and
> >>>>> overall performance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> FRH
> >>> I have all the old parts out in my shed. Just ran out to check. The
air
> >>> filter goes in a rectangular plastic box which was connected to the
> >>> intake manifold by a clamped on plastic tube. From the front of the
box
> >>> there is a flared snorkel that extends at an angle to slightly above
the
> >>> height of the air filter box. Looks like a small black trumpet. It
> >>> terminated inside the engine compartment although very high up. It was
> >>> definitely not connected outside the engine compartment. The inside
> >>> diameter of the of the snorkel is less than an inch and a half. My
> >>> knuckle won't fit inside. The snorkel reminds me of the old metal
> >>> encased air cleaners of the '50s and '60s that had a "trumpet"
extending
> >>> out from the round metal cover of the filter element. We'd pull that
off
> >>> and put on a less restrictive air cleaner (and then a Holley Dual
Feed,
> >>> cam, headers, $$$, etc..) ;-)
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> FRH
> >>
> >>
> > That's not a '04 Wrangler X 6 cylinder. Looks like a Grand Cherokee. My
> > statement stands for a 2004 Wrangler X 6 cylinder.
> >
> > --
> > FRH
>
>