Mike Romain

The truckers are the ones to pay attention to!

The most dangerous time is right at that 'spray stops' point and most
truckers will pull off for a break right about then. They come back on
after it has froze up solid.

When I see the truck stops all full and very few moving slowly, I
usually figure it's break time too. Or at least really slow down time
until they come back on the road. It's not the time to think it's cool
to pass the slow trucks.....

Mike

Snow wrote:
>
> I know a few truckers who drive the 400 and as they say "if its spraying on
> the windshield keep the hammer down, when it stops spraying get off the road
> cause its freezing up"
>
> Snow...
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:f9ydndFqRqBqKyrcRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> > I was driving down from Barrie on the 400 last week (whenever that snow
> was)
> > and damned if I could keep up to the semi's. I couldn't even keep up to
> > slipstream behind them.
> >
> > The only time traffic on that highway drops below 130kph is when there's
> an
> > accident. Retarded!!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41B7AB98.ADAFE894@sympatico.ca...
> > > Pushing 100 here in the snow is pretty normal. The semi tractors go 90
> > > to 100 kph and you need to be able to keep up to them to be safe or you
> > > should stay the heck off the highway.
> > >
> > > That is where the guys with wide tires lose it big time. If they go
> > > much more than 40 mph or 60 kph in the snow they get up on top and lose
> > > steering control.
> > >
> > > Folks with real winter or narrow tires can at least keep up to the
> > > trucks.
> > >
> > > These gents are driving Cherokees too! They are way more stable in the
> > > snow usually.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > john_r357@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> > >> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> > >> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> > >> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> > >> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> > >> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> > >> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
> > >>
> > >> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> > >> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> > >> vehichle is full time 4WD.
> > >>
> > >> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> > >> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> > >> escpecially ice!
> > >>
> > >> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> > >> someone else!
> > >> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
> > >>
> > >> Patrick wrote:
> > >> > I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
> > >> Rain, On
> > >> > the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > Pat
> > >> > --
> > >> > LE CLONE
> > >> >
> > >> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > >> > Gatineau, Qc
> > >> > J8P 1K6
> > >> > (819) 643-0511
> > >> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >> > NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
> > >> >
> > >> > patrick@leclone.com
> > >> > www.leclone.com
> > >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> > news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
> > >> > > You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
> > >> the
> > >> > > time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
> > >> is
> > >> > > debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
> > >> > > stressing things.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
> > >> on
> > >> > > wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
> > >> on wet
> > >> > > is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
> > >> a
> > >> > > used one.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Mike
> > >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > >
> > >> > > bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
> > >> the
> > >> > > > mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> > >> > > > completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
> > >> I
> > >> > > > suppose.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
> > >> can't use
> > >> > > > fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
> > >> of
> > >> > > > snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
> > >> faster
> > >> > > > on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
> > >> 4wd on
> > >> > > > for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
> > >> the
> > >> > > > first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
> > >> occasionally
> > >> > > > around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
> > >> mph).
> >
> >

FrankW

I agree 100%
4WD vehicles "slide" out of control just easy/well as
any 2WD vehicle. Yes you do have better traction
but stopping is the tricky part.

john_r357@hotmail.com wrote:
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
>
>>I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
>
> Rain, On
>
>>the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
>>
>>Pat
>>--
>>LE CLONE
>>
>>279 Notre-Dame
>>Gatineau, Qc
>>J8P 1K6
>>(819) 643-0511
>>SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>>NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
>>
>>patrick@leclone.com
>>www.leclone.com
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
>
> the
>
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
>
> is
>
>>>debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
>>>stressing things.
>>>
>>>My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
>
> on
>
>>>wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
>>>
>>>I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
>
> on wet
>
>>>is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
>>>
>>>Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
>
> a
>
>>>used one.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
>
> the
>
>>>>mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
>>>>completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
>
> I
>
>>>>suppose.
>>>>
>>>>I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
>
> can't use
>
>>>>fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
>
> of
>
>>>>snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
>
> faster
>
>>>>on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
>
> 4wd on
>
>>>>for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
>
> the
>
>>>>first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
>
> occasionally
>
>>>>around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
>
> mph).
>

FrankW

I agree 100%
4WD vehicles "slide" out of control just easy/well as
any 2WD vehicle. Yes you do have better traction
but stopping is the tricky part.

john_r357@hotmail.com wrote:
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
>
>>I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
>
> Rain, On
>
>>the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
>>
>>Pat
>>--
>>LE CLONE
>>
>>279 Notre-Dame
>>Gatineau, Qc
>>J8P 1K6
>>(819) 643-0511
>>SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>>NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
>>
>>patrick@leclone.com
>>www.leclone.com
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
>
> the
>
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
>
> is
>
>>>debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
>>>stressing things.
>>>
>>>My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
>
> on
>
>>>wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
>>>
>>>I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
>
> on wet
>
>>>is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
>>>
>>>Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
>
> a
>
>>>used one.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
>
> the
>
>>>>mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
>>>>completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
>
> I
>
>>>>suppose.
>>>>
>>>>I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
>
> can't use
>
>>>>fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
>
> of
>
>>>>snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
>
> faster
>
>>>>on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
>
> 4wd on
>
>>>>for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
>
> the
>
>>>>first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
>
> occasionally
>
>>>>around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
>
> mph).
>

FrankW

I agree 100%
4WD vehicles "slide" out of control just easy/well as
any 2WD vehicle. Yes you do have better traction
but stopping is the tricky part.

john_r357@hotmail.com wrote:
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
>
>>I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
>
> Rain, On
>
>>the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
>>
>>Pat
>>--
>>LE CLONE
>>
>>279 Notre-Dame
>>Gatineau, Qc
>>J8P 1K6
>>(819) 643-0511
>>SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>>NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
>>
>>patrick@leclone.com
>>www.leclone.com
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
>
> the
>
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
>
> is
>
>>>debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
>>>stressing things.
>>>
>>>My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
>
> on
>
>>>wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
>>>
>>>I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
>
> on wet
>
>>>is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
>>>
>>>Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
>
> a
>
>>>used one.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
>
> the
>
>>>>mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
>>>>completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
>
> I
>
>>>>suppose.
>>>>
>>>>I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
>
> can't use
>
>>>>fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
>
> of
>
>>>>snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
>
> faster
>
>>>>on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
>
> 4wd on
>
>>>>for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
>
> the
>
>>>>first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
>
> occasionally
>
>>>>around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
>
> mph).
>

Patrick

96 GC Laredo I6 4x4 Selectrac, 100 Kmh, Full Time AWD

100 Kmh Higway driving...

<john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102555029.368407.22260@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
> > I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
> Rain, On
> > the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
> >
> > Pat
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
> the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
> is
> > > debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
> > > stressing things.
> > >
> > > My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
> on
> > > wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
> > >
> > > I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
> on wet
> > > is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
> > >
> > > Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
> a
> > > used one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
> the
> > > > mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> > > > completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
> I
> > > > suppose.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
> can't use
> > > > fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
> of
> > > > snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
> faster
> > > > on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
> 4wd on
> > > > for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
> the
> > > > first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
> occasionally
> > > > around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
> mph).
>

Patrick

96 GC Laredo I6 4x4 Selectrac, 100 Kmh, Full Time AWD

100 Kmh Higway driving...

<john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102555029.368407.22260@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
> > I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
> Rain, On
> > the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
> >
> > Pat
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > NOUVEAU REVENDEUR AUTORISEE SERVICE INTERNET
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
> the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
> is
> > > debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
> > > stressing things.
> > >
> > > My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
> on
> > > wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
> > >
> > > I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
> on wet
> > > is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
> > >
> > > Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
> a
> > > used one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
> the
> > > > mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> > > > completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
> I
> > > > suppose.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
> can't use
> > > > fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
> of
> > > > snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
> faster
> > > > on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
> 4wd on
> > > > for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
> the
> > > > first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
> occasionally
> > > > around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
> mph).
>

Patrick

96 GC Laredo I6 4x4 Selectrac, 100 Kmh, Full Time AWD

100 Kmh Higway driving...

<john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102555029.368407.22260@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> 100Kmh is 62Mph, but 80Mph in 4WD???? IMO 100Kmh is too fast for 4WD!
> You guys are nuts!! If road conditions are such that you feel you need
> to be in 4WD, why on earth would you be driving that fast? Even if you
> have red or blue lights flashing and are responding to a distress call,
> the law doesn't permit you to drive at 80Mph -in most parts of the US-
> although I hear that out west there are places that post "reasonable
> and customary" type speed limits with reduced speed in poor conditions.
>
> I don't mean to sound harsh, but I hope to hell I'm never on the same
> stretch of road as you when you're driving that fast in 4WD unless your
> vehichle is full time 4WD.
>
> For the newbie that was driving at 80 - PLEASE remember that 4WD will
> get you in to trouble TWICE as fast as 2WD in many, many situations,
> escpecially ice!
>
> Take it easy. Slow down before you hurt yourself or God forbid,
> someone else!
> <ok, I'm off my soapbox now>
>
>
> Patrick wrote:
> > I drove in the worst wather last night Snowy during the day then
> Rain, On
> > the highway at 100 Kmh 4WD. No problem.
> >
> > Pat
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
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> > (819) 643-0511
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> >
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> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41B77C42.92962D0E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have the full time and like you say it should be good for all
> the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Lots like me only have the part time that locks things up so there
> is
> > > debate if the wet is slippery enough to allow wheel scuff without
> > > stressing things.
> > >
> > > My old beast has over 300K km on it and I can feel the stress when
> on
> > > wet so shift back to 2 wheel drive when I feel it.
> > >
> > > I never have used it in the rain, but from patch of snow to patch
> on wet
> > > is ok unless I feel it. I don't want to stress the old beast.
> > >
> > > Not a bad price for a full rebuild. Then you know what you have vs
> a
> > > used one.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > bcoker@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with
> the
> > > > mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
> > > > completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price
> I
> > > > suppose.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and
> can't use
> > > > fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out
> of
> > > > snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go
> faster
> > > > on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the
> 4wd on
> > > > for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's
> the
> > > > first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it
> occasionally
> > > > around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50
> mph).
>

SteveBrady

I used to live in North Bay, and one time travelling from the parents in
Niagara, I got stuck in a blizzard in Hamilton and was in it all the way to
Huntsville.
Once I hit Hwy11, the only way I knew I was in my lane was that I was just
missing the oncoming traffic by a couple feet. Took me 9 hours to go
200km's.

Shame on me for being stupid enough to keep going!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B85E8F.77AFFD7B@sympatico.ca...
>I also think the fast lane seems to fill in with snow less. The center
> of the wide road seems to get less snow.
>
> Or it is just the safest lane to stay in so the trucks keep it blown off
> best. The right lane or slow lane is a merge lane and for sure you
> don't want to be there where the fools that are doing 20 mph reside.
>
> Why these idiots don't take the side roads where the speed limit is
> lower I just can't understand. Having transport after transport pass
> you is extremely dangerous due to the whiteout caused. You can't see
> squat for several minutes.
>
> We take roads like HWY. 7 instead of the 401 in big storms. The speed
> limit is only 80 kph or 50 mph on them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> I gotta side Mike here, I have real snow tires on my cherokee and
>> routinely
>> when I find myself driving the 400 plus KM's north up the 400 highway and
>> then up Hwy.11 I'm often doing 90-110 kph behind a semi. All you have to
>> do
>> is drive the 400 at night when the squalls are blowing off Georgian Bay
>> and
>> you will see a couple things First, every 4wd vehicle is doing either
>> very
>> close to or the speed limit Second you will notice how every 4wd and semi
>> are travelling in the fast lane because they have the traction to keep
>> moving (hills excluded where most semi's pull in to the slow lane).
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1102557673.079888.220380@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hey Mike,
>> >
>> > I agree with you to a point. I'm originally from Vermont and have
>> > spent plenty of time driving in Quebec (Montreal is a GREAT party
>> > town!- St Catherine St. ring any bells?)... But IMO, if the tractors
>> > are travelling at that speed, you are probably going to be ok in 2wd.
>> > Escpecially in the longer wheelbase Jeep. I know how flat it gets in
>> > southern Quebec on the 133 or route 10 (for instance) so it's easy to
>> > get rolling pretty fast in a couple inches of snow and slush. Like one
>> > of the OP's in this thread said, "just because you can, doesn't mean
>> > you should!" (escpecially after 6 Bradors at the Peel Pub!)
>> >

SteveBrady

I used to live in North Bay, and one time travelling from the parents in
Niagara, I got stuck in a blizzard in Hamilton and was in it all the way to
Huntsville.
Once I hit Hwy11, the only way I knew I was in my lane was that I was just
missing the oncoming traffic by a couple feet. Took me 9 hours to go
200km's.

Shame on me for being stupid enough to keep going!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B85E8F.77AFFD7B@sympatico.ca...
>I also think the fast lane seems to fill in with snow less. The center
> of the wide road seems to get less snow.
>
> Or it is just the safest lane to stay in so the trucks keep it blown off
> best. The right lane or slow lane is a merge lane and for sure you
> don't want to be there where the fools that are doing 20 mph reside.
>
> Why these idiots don't take the side roads where the speed limit is
> lower I just can't understand. Having transport after transport pass
> you is extremely dangerous due to the whiteout caused. You can't see
> squat for several minutes.
>
> We take roads like HWY. 7 instead of the 401 in big storms. The speed
> limit is only 80 kph or 50 mph on them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> I gotta side Mike here, I have real snow tires on my cherokee and
>> routinely
>> when I find myself driving the 400 plus KM's north up the 400 highway and
>> then up Hwy.11 I'm often doing 90-110 kph behind a semi. All you have to
>> do
>> is drive the 400 at night when the squalls are blowing off Georgian Bay
>> and
>> you will see a couple things First, every 4wd vehicle is doing either
>> very
>> close to or the speed limit Second you will notice how every 4wd and semi
>> are travelling in the fast lane because they have the traction to keep
>> moving (hills excluded where most semi's pull in to the slow lane).
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1102557673.079888.220380@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hey Mike,
>> >
>> > I agree with you to a point. I'm originally from Vermont and have
>> > spent plenty of time driving in Quebec (Montreal is a GREAT party
>> > town!- St Catherine St. ring any bells?)... But IMO, if the tractors
>> > are travelling at that speed, you are probably going to be ok in 2wd.
>> > Escpecially in the longer wheelbase Jeep. I know how flat it gets in
>> > southern Quebec on the 133 or route 10 (for instance) so it's easy to
>> > get rolling pretty fast in a couple inches of snow and slush. Like one
>> > of the OP's in this thread said, "just because you can, doesn't mean
>> > you should!" (escpecially after 6 Bradors at the Peel Pub!)
>> >

SteveBrady

I used to live in North Bay, and one time travelling from the parents in
Niagara, I got stuck in a blizzard in Hamilton and was in it all the way to
Huntsville.
Once I hit Hwy11, the only way I knew I was in my lane was that I was just
missing the oncoming traffic by a couple feet. Took me 9 hours to go
200km's.

Shame on me for being stupid enough to keep going!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B85E8F.77AFFD7B@sympatico.ca...
>I also think the fast lane seems to fill in with snow less. The center
> of the wide road seems to get less snow.
>
> Or it is just the safest lane to stay in so the trucks keep it blown off
> best. The right lane or slow lane is a merge lane and for sure you
> don't want to be there where the fools that are doing 20 mph reside.
>
> Why these idiots don't take the side roads where the speed limit is
> lower I just can't understand. Having transport after transport pass
> you is extremely dangerous due to the whiteout caused. You can't see
> squat for several minutes.
>
> We take roads like HWY. 7 instead of the 401 in big storms. The speed
> limit is only 80 kph or 50 mph on them.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Snow wrote:
>>
>> I gotta side Mike here, I have real snow tires on my cherokee and
>> routinely
>> when I find myself driving the 400 plus KM's north up the 400 highway and
>> then up Hwy.11 I'm often doing 90-110 kph behind a semi. All you have to
>> do
>> is drive the 400 at night when the squalls are blowing off Georgian Bay
>> and
>> you will see a couple things First, every 4wd vehicle is doing either
>> very
>> close to or the speed limit Second you will notice how every 4wd and semi
>> are travelling in the fast lane because they have the traction to keep
>> moving (hills excluded where most semi's pull in to the slow lane).
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>> <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1102557673.079888.220380@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hey Mike,
>> >
>> > I agree with you to a point. I'm originally from Vermont and have
>> > spent plenty of time driving in Quebec (Montreal is a GREAT party
>> > town!- St Catherine St. ring any bells?)... But IMO, if the tractors
>> > are travelling at that speed, you are probably going to be ok in 2wd.
>> > Escpecially in the longer wheelbase Jeep. I know how flat it gets in
>> > southern Quebec on the 133 or route 10 (for instance) so it's easy to
>> > get rolling pretty fast in a couple inches of snow and slush. Like one
>> > of the OP's in this thread said, "just because you can, doesn't mean
>> > you should!" (escpecially after 6 Bradors at the Peel Pub!)
>> >