Cherokee Model Query
#51
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Drifter wrote:
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev
#52
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Drifter wrote:
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev
#53
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
#54
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
#55
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
> Drifter wrote:
>
>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>carried away).
>
>
> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
used ads.
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
There will be a lot more XJs, ZJs,and WJs on the used car market now because
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
There will be a lot more XJs, ZJs,and WJs on the used car market now because
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
There will be a lot more XJs, ZJs,and WJs on the used car market now because
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
of the 'family plan' pricing being offered by the manufacturers.
If I had the money available I could probably find that buildable XJ (or ZJ)
that I have been thinking about for a very nice price.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> kdarling@basit.com proclaimed:
>> Drifter wrote:
>>
>>>I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
>>>viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
>>>because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
>>>the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
>>>who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
>>>fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
>>>until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
>>>carried away).
>>
>>
>> Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
>> simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
>
> There were also a lot of them sold... so more make it into the
> used ads.
>
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Is this the same 2.8 liter V-6 that would have been in the '86 Camaros?
My (ex-)wife's was fuel injected and I was surprised at how well it ran.
She and her boyfriend used it for a couple years to tow a ski-boat.
My '81 Malibu with the 3.8 liver V-6 did not run as well.
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"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the
> same time
> AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was
> selling
> AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft
> knurled
> backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
>
> Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though.
> Valve
> covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could
> leak,
> would.
>
> Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and
> you have
> your basic boat anchor.
>
>
> In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>
>>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent
>>on
>>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that
>>engine,
>>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the
>>2.8
>>disappear
>>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>>wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>>> Chevy
>>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as
>>> > much
>>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find
>>> > one
>>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>>> worth
>>> > a second look.
>>>
>>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L
>>> quit
>>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required
>>> adding
>>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up.
>>> With
>>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one
>>> better
>>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much
>>> in
>>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's
>>> not
>>> like I had much in the way of choices.
My (ex-)wife's was fuel injected and I was surprised at how well it ran.
She and her boyfriend used it for a couple years to tow a ski-boat.
My '81 Malibu with the 3.8 liver V-6 did not run as well.
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"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the
> same time
> AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was
> selling
> AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft
> knurled
> backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
>
> Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though.
> Valve
> covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could
> leak,
> would.
>
> Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and
> you have
> your basic boat anchor.
>
>
> In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>
>>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent
>>on
>>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that
>>engine,
>>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the
>>2.8
>>disappear
>>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>>wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>>> Chevy
>>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as
>>> > much
>>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find
>>> > one
>>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>>> worth
>>> > a second look.
>>>
>>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L
>>> quit
>>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required
>>> adding
>>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up.
>>> With
>>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one
>>> better
>>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much
>>> in
>>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's
>>> not
>>> like I had much in the way of choices.
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Is this the same 2.8 liter V-6 that would have been in the '86 Camaros?
My (ex-)wife's was fuel injected and I was surprised at how well it ran.
She and her boyfriend used it for a couple years to tow a ski-boat.
My '81 Malibu with the 3.8 liver V-6 did not run as well.
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"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the
> same time
> AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was
> selling
> AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft
> knurled
> backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
>
> Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though.
> Valve
> covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could
> leak,
> would.
>
> Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and
> you have
> your basic boat anchor.
>
>
> In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>
>>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent
>>on
>>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that
>>engine,
>>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the
>>2.8
>>disappear
>>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>>wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>>> Chevy
>>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as
>>> > much
>>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find
>>> > one
>>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>>> worth
>>> > a second look.
>>>
>>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L
>>> quit
>>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required
>>> adding
>>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up.
>>> With
>>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one
>>> better
>>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much
>>> in
>>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's
>>> not
>>> like I had much in the way of choices.
My (ex-)wife's was fuel injected and I was surprised at how well it ran.
She and her boyfriend used it for a couple years to tow a ski-boat.
My '81 Malibu with the 3.8 liver V-6 did not run as well.
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"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the
> same time
> AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was
> selling
> AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft
> knurled
> backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
>
> Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though.
> Valve
> covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could
> leak,
> would.
>
> Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and
> you have
> your basic boat anchor.
>
>
> In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>
>>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent
>>on
>>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that
>>engine,
>>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the
>>2.8
>>disappear
>>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>>wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>>> Chevy
>>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as
>>> > much
>>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find
>>> > one
>>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>>> worth
>>> > a second look.
>>>
>>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L
>>> quit
>>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required
>>> adding
>>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up.
>>> With
>>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one
>>> better
>>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much
>>> in
>>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's
>>> not
>>> like I had much in the way of choices.