Cherokee Model Query
#41
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
> Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
#42
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
> Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
#43
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
> Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
Chevy
> S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
worth
> a second look.
Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
like I had much in the way of choices.
#44
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
#45
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
#46
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
disappear
any old jeep employee's here than can verify
wkearney99 wrote:
> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
> Chevy
> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
> worth
> > a second look.
>
> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
> like I had much in the way of choices.
#47
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the same time
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
#48
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the same time
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
#49
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
That's a load of crap. It was a GM engine, and GM was using it at the same time
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
AMC was. GM had already come out with a 1 piece rear main setup and was selling
AMC the 2 piece engines. Some of the AMC ones even had the crankshaft knurled
backwards, turning it into a 2.8L oil pump.
Rear main seals weren't the only place that leaked oil on those though. Valve
covers, intake manifolds, fuel pump o-rings, etc... Anything that could leak,
would.
Add to that the fact that it couldn't even get out of it's own way, and you have
your basic boat anchor.
In message <4336A937.D599B108@cac.net>, "tim bur" wrote:
>just to let u know this was what i was told by jeep. amc owned the patent on
>that engine and when amc was bought by chrysler gm started to use that engine,
>chy. sued and then got 1500.00 for each engine used and then u seen the 2.8
>disappear
>any old jeep employee's here than can verify
>wkearney99 wrote:
>
>> > Nope, 2.8 liter boat anchor. Reliable and fairly long-lasting, if the
>> Chevy
>> > S10 I owned was any indication, but underpowered. It has about as much
>> > power as the four cylinder offerings from the same years. If you find one
>> > of these in an otherwise acceptable vehicle, however, it is certainly
>> worth
>> > a second look.
>>
>> Also note that a 3.4L V6 long block is a drop-in replacement. My 2.8L quit
>> after about 200k miles and I had it replaced with the 3.4L. Required adding
>> an electric fuel pump but otherwise it was a pretty straight bolt-up. With
>> the exception of making sure you use the right oil pan. There's one better
>> suited for the 4wd front axle. The added .6L doesn't really give much in
>> the way of performance improvement, but since my 2.8L threw a rod it's not
>> like I had much in the way of choices.
#50
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Drifter wrote:
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev
> I'll probably get seriously jumped on for this comment but my
> viewpoint runs something like this... You see a lot of GC's available
> because they have so much "luxury" crap and half of it goes wrong all
> the time and the owner can't stand it and dumps the vehicle. People
> who have "plain vanilla" Cherokees seem to keep them until the wheels
> fall off (and then they get them lifted and put bigger wheels on,
> until the snap an axle then upgrade the axle...oh, sorry, getting
> carried away).
Well, not really jumpin' on ya, but I think you see a lot of GC's
simply because they're good looking and quick as hell (V-8).
The only thing I've had go bad on my 2000 GC Limited in 70K miles is
the turn signal flasher module ($50). I adore this vehicle! You can't
beat the heated seats in winter, nor the dual climate control, nor the
Quadra-Drive in deep snow. It's just a comfortable, incredibly
powerful vehicle.
OTOH, my luck with Cherokees hasn't been so good. I like them too, but
I've replaced engines at 80K, had transmission and header troubles,
etc.
Of coure, everyone's experience varies. But no, I don't think you see
a lot of GC's because the luxury stuff goes bad, especially not the
1999+.
Best, Kev