cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
#21
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:00:14 UTC Danny
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
> > A someone else says, if it had the towing package stock, it will have
> > the cooler. If it doesn't have a cooler, an aftermarket one runs US$30
> > to US$70. These are generic items, they hook up with rubber hoses and
> > hose clamps so I'd expect them to be available over the counter locally.
> >
> > The tow rating on the auto equiped vehicles is much larger than the
> > rating on the manuals. It has to do with the stall speed on the torque
> > converter being high enough (about 1800?? on yours) to allow easy starts
> > from stop or on hill.
> >
> > If you are only doing 6 miles, I doubt if it will be a big issue either
> > way. The tranny won't get hot enough to make much difference.
> >
> > 1800kg is almost 4000 pounds, a decent handfull of trailer to tow. For
> > any used vehicle for heavy service like this I'd have a look at tires,
> > shocks, brake pads, brake rotors, belts, tranny fluid (do a trany
> > service and flush), cooling system (flush, drain, refill with new
> > coolant), etc.
> >
> > Nake sure you are using a class III reciver hitch with the 2" reciever
> > hole. The Cherokee is unibody construction, you need to have a hitch
> > with the proper mounts and bracing.
> >
>
> In the UK we don't have "receiver hitches" - they're illegal here. We
> have a towball mounted on a bar that attaches each side of the rear of
> the vehicle.
>
> On a seperate note, a Jeep spares dealer over here tells me that all
> Cherokees have a transmission cooler as standard, will have to look
> when I get the vehicle...
The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
two bolts too close together will pull through.
As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
--
Will Honea
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
> > A someone else says, if it had the towing package stock, it will have
> > the cooler. If it doesn't have a cooler, an aftermarket one runs US$30
> > to US$70. These are generic items, they hook up with rubber hoses and
> > hose clamps so I'd expect them to be available over the counter locally.
> >
> > The tow rating on the auto equiped vehicles is much larger than the
> > rating on the manuals. It has to do with the stall speed on the torque
> > converter being high enough (about 1800?? on yours) to allow easy starts
> > from stop or on hill.
> >
> > If you are only doing 6 miles, I doubt if it will be a big issue either
> > way. The tranny won't get hot enough to make much difference.
> >
> > 1800kg is almost 4000 pounds, a decent handfull of trailer to tow. For
> > any used vehicle for heavy service like this I'd have a look at tires,
> > shocks, brake pads, brake rotors, belts, tranny fluid (do a trany
> > service and flush), cooling system (flush, drain, refill with new
> > coolant), etc.
> >
> > Nake sure you are using a class III reciver hitch with the 2" reciever
> > hole. The Cherokee is unibody construction, you need to have a hitch
> > with the proper mounts and bracing.
> >
>
> In the UK we don't have "receiver hitches" - they're illegal here. We
> have a towball mounted on a bar that attaches each side of the rear of
> the vehicle.
>
> On a seperate note, a Jeep spares dealer over here tells me that all
> Cherokees have a transmission cooler as standard, will have to look
> when I get the vehicle...
The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
two bolts too close together will pull through.
As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
--
Will Honea
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:00:14 UTC Danny
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
> > A someone else says, if it had the towing package stock, it will have
> > the cooler. If it doesn't have a cooler, an aftermarket one runs US$30
> > to US$70. These are generic items, they hook up with rubber hoses and
> > hose clamps so I'd expect them to be available over the counter locally.
> >
> > The tow rating on the auto equiped vehicles is much larger than the
> > rating on the manuals. It has to do with the stall speed on the torque
> > converter being high enough (about 1800?? on yours) to allow easy starts
> > from stop or on hill.
> >
> > If you are only doing 6 miles, I doubt if it will be a big issue either
> > way. The tranny won't get hot enough to make much difference.
> >
> > 1800kg is almost 4000 pounds, a decent handfull of trailer to tow. For
> > any used vehicle for heavy service like this I'd have a look at tires,
> > shocks, brake pads, brake rotors, belts, tranny fluid (do a trany
> > service and flush), cooling system (flush, drain, refill with new
> > coolant), etc.
> >
> > Nake sure you are using a class III reciver hitch with the 2" reciever
> > hole. The Cherokee is unibody construction, you need to have a hitch
> > with the proper mounts and bracing.
> >
>
> In the UK we don't have "receiver hitches" - they're illegal here. We
> have a towball mounted on a bar that attaches each side of the rear of
> the vehicle.
>
> On a seperate note, a Jeep spares dealer over here tells me that all
> Cherokees have a transmission cooler as standard, will have to look
> when I get the vehicle...
The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
two bolts too close together will pull through.
As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
--
Will Honea
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
> > A someone else says, if it had the towing package stock, it will have
> > the cooler. If it doesn't have a cooler, an aftermarket one runs US$30
> > to US$70. These are generic items, they hook up with rubber hoses and
> > hose clamps so I'd expect them to be available over the counter locally.
> >
> > The tow rating on the auto equiped vehicles is much larger than the
> > rating on the manuals. It has to do with the stall speed on the torque
> > converter being high enough (about 1800?? on yours) to allow easy starts
> > from stop or on hill.
> >
> > If you are only doing 6 miles, I doubt if it will be a big issue either
> > way. The tranny won't get hot enough to make much difference.
> >
> > 1800kg is almost 4000 pounds, a decent handfull of trailer to tow. For
> > any used vehicle for heavy service like this I'd have a look at tires,
> > shocks, brake pads, brake rotors, belts, tranny fluid (do a trany
> > service and flush), cooling system (flush, drain, refill with new
> > coolant), etc.
> >
> > Nake sure you are using a class III reciver hitch with the 2" reciever
> > hole. The Cherokee is unibody construction, you need to have a hitch
> > with the proper mounts and bracing.
> >
>
> In the UK we don't have "receiver hitches" - they're illegal here. We
> have a towball mounted on a bar that attaches each side of the rear of
> the vehicle.
>
> On a seperate note, a Jeep spares dealer over here tells me that all
> Cherokees have a transmission cooler as standard, will have to look
> when I get the vehicle...
The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
two bolts too close together will pull through.
As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
--
Will Honea
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
The owners manual for my Canadian 88 says 5000 if auto with a cooler and
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
The owners manual for my Canadian 88 says 5000 if auto with a cooler and
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
The owners manual for my Canadian 88 says 5000 if auto with a cooler and
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
2000 lb if 5 speed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
k_902 wrote:
>
> I also have a qestion about towing with my jeep. I have a 1989 Jeep Cherokee
> Laredo with the 4.0. It didn't come with the tow package, however I was
> looking at a Class III hitch for towing my Boat in the summer. I was
> wondering if anybody knew the tow rating for my Jeep. I've read on a few
> sites that it can handle up to 5000 pounds. Any help would be great.
>
> k_902
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
Will Honea wrote:
> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
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> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
Will Honea wrote:
> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
Will Honea wrote:
> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
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> The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> two bolts too close together will pull through.
>
> As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
>
Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
as well?
--
Regards,
Danny
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:04:17 UTC Danny
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> > attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> > the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> > two bolts too close together will pull through.
> >
> > As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> > in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> > that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
> >
>
> Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
> uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
> prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
> there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
> as well?
As some of the others have noted, there are generic cooling units -
about like a small radiator of a heater core - that you simply patch
inline with the existing plumbing that runs up to the radiator. Some
ill mount the add-on in front of the radiator for the air flow but
that blocks some of the air to the radiator. These are cheap - $30-50
US - and quick to install (if a little messy - you are dealing with
hydraulic oil <g>). Check out some local RV shops - this is a big
issue with those pulling trailers (I think it's what you would call a
caravan) so they can likely set you up quickly. Personally, I'm more
concerned with stopping than anything else with a load like that - I
don't give any Jeep a world-class rating for excess braking power.
--
Will Honea
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> > attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> > the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> > two bolts too close together will pull through.
> >
> > As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> > in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> > that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
> >
>
> Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
> uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
> prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
> there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
> as well?
As some of the others have noted, there are generic cooling units -
about like a small radiator of a heater core - that you simply patch
inline with the existing plumbing that runs up to the radiator. Some
ill mount the add-on in front of the radiator for the air flow but
that blocks some of the air to the radiator. These are cheap - $30-50
US - and quick to install (if a little messy - you are dealing with
hydraulic oil <g>). Check out some local RV shops - this is a big
issue with those pulling trailers (I think it's what you would call a
caravan) so they can likely set you up quickly. Personally, I'm more
concerned with stopping than anything else with a load like that - I
don't give any Jeep a world-class rating for excess braking power.
--
Will Honea
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Re: cherokee auto, towing and transmission coolers
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:04:17 UTC Danny
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> > attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> > the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> > two bolts too close together will pull through.
> >
> > As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> > in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> > that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
> >
>
> Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
> uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
> prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
> there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
> as well?
As some of the others have noted, there are generic cooling units -
about like a small radiator of a heater core - that you simply patch
inline with the existing plumbing that runs up to the radiator. Some
ill mount the add-on in front of the radiator for the air flow but
that blocks some of the air to the radiator. These are cheap - $30-50
US - and quick to install (if a little messy - you are dealing with
hydraulic oil <g>). Check out some local RV shops - this is a big
issue with those pulling trailers (I think it's what you would call a
caravan) so they can likely set you up quickly. Personally, I'm more
concerned with stopping than anything else with a load like that - I
don't give any Jeep a world-class rating for excess braking power.
--
Will Honea
<danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
> Will Honea wrote:
>
> > The mount issue with the tow setup is the same regardless of the ball
> > attachment - the rig has to attach to the subframe so that it ------s
> > the load. The channels are not as heavy as a ladder frame so one or
> > two bolts too close together will pull through.
> >
> > As for the 'standard' cooler - virtually all automatics have a cooler
> > in the radiator - you'll see the hoses to one of the end caps. Unless
> > that 6 miles is a 6-10% grade, that should do you.
> >
>
> Thanks. My drive to work is mostly motorway with a reasonably long
> uphill sliproad, at the top of which I need to be doing 50. I would
> prefer to ensure the transmission couldn't overheat, so given that
> there is a cooler as standard, is there a heavy duty cooler available
> as well?
As some of the others have noted, there are generic cooling units -
about like a small radiator of a heater core - that you simply patch
inline with the existing plumbing that runs up to the radiator. Some
ill mount the add-on in front of the radiator for the air flow but
that blocks some of the air to the radiator. These are cheap - $30-50
US - and quick to install (if a little messy - you are dealing with
hydraulic oil <g>). Check out some local RV shops - this is a big
issue with those pulling trailers (I think it's what you would call a
caravan) so they can likely set you up quickly. Personally, I'm more
concerned with stopping than anything else with a load like that - I
don't give any Jeep a world-class rating for excess braking power.
--
Will Honea