charcoal or gas?
#161
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Re: charcoal or gas?
"> Hmmm... years ago I worked on a project at IBM where we were shooting
lasers
> over a city to detect pollution. We then overlaid the results over a map
of
> the city. We could detect fireplaces, restaurants, etc. The goal was to,
> eventually, be able to detect who was illegally burning wood, etc. and
then
> fine them.
We still have no bi-annual smog inspections, and burn yard debris here.
Woodstoves abound, although new ones need cats. They outlawed burn-barrels
here this year, but no one has ben cited for burning garbage yet.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
lasers
> over a city to detect pollution. We then overlaid the results over a map
of
> the city. We could detect fireplaces, restaurants, etc. The goal was to,
> eventually, be able to detect who was illegally burning wood, etc. and
then
> fine them.
We still have no bi-annual smog inspections, and burn yard debris here.
Woodstoves abound, although new ones need cats. They outlawed burn-barrels
here this year, but no one has ben cited for burning garbage yet.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
#162
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Re: charcoal or gas?
I think you get a different flavor from charcoal than from gas, but gas is
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
#163
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Re: charcoal or gas?
I think you get a different flavor from charcoal than from gas, but gas is
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
#164
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Re: charcoal or gas?
I think you get a different flavor from charcoal than from gas, but gas is
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
#165
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: charcoal or gas?
I think you get a different flavor from charcoal than from gas, but gas is
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
easier to use.
To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then ------ it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.
My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
#166
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Re: charcoal or gas?
For camping, there is no better fire than charcoal, but gas is the way to go
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
#167
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: charcoal or gas?
For camping, there is no better fire than charcoal, but gas is the way to go
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
#168
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: charcoal or gas?
For camping, there is no better fire than charcoal, but gas is the way to go
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
#169
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: charcoal or gas?
For camping, there is no better fire than charcoal, but gas is the way to go
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
in the backyard.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4087036B.D151874B@sympatico.ca...
> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
>
> There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.
>
> Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
> stove for, but not for direct cooking.
>
> I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
> a home BBQ.
>
> The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
> home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.A. Jeepster" wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> > whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> > In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> > that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> > I make this important decision.
> >
> > L.A. Jeepster
> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
#170
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Re: charcoal or gas?
OK I gotta chime in on this one.
I am currently welding up an offset firebox smoker. My old smoker is just
to small for the amount of meat I want to serve so a bigger one is needed!
I just welded up most of the firebox (18"x18"x18" 1/4" thick). I need to go
get more plate for the cooking chamber. It will be 20"x20"x36" long with
hooks and two shelves. Can pile up a lot of pork butt, brisket, ribs,
sausage, and chickens in there. I usually smoke my pork butt for 12 hours
at about 200 deg. (I have had it fall apart when I tried to pick it up off
the smoker before) The last hour I throw on tater skins, corn and whole
onions on the smoker while my cornbread cooks in the oven in my iron
skillets. Of course I made my three different BBQ sauces the day before and
are heating up on the firebox. Gas ?? !! ?? I'll take wood and LUMP
charcoal any day! (even Kingsford uses some petroleum products, but has the
least of all briquette types) I have a Weber Genesis and is a great grill,
but I only use it for hot dogs. True BBQ is low and slow! I would say get
the gas. Master that, get a Webber kettle charcoal, then maybe try a small
offset firebox smoker. Take it in steps. OK.. I am ready to eat now. I
made myself hungry!
Kevin KC8GAB
97 TJ
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>
I am currently welding up an offset firebox smoker. My old smoker is just
to small for the amount of meat I want to serve so a bigger one is needed!
I just welded up most of the firebox (18"x18"x18" 1/4" thick). I need to go
get more plate for the cooking chamber. It will be 20"x20"x36" long with
hooks and two shelves. Can pile up a lot of pork butt, brisket, ribs,
sausage, and chickens in there. I usually smoke my pork butt for 12 hours
at about 200 deg. (I have had it fall apart when I tried to pick it up off
the smoker before) The last hour I throw on tater skins, corn and whole
onions on the smoker while my cornbread cooks in the oven in my iron
skillets. Of course I made my three different BBQ sauces the day before and
are heating up on the firebox. Gas ?? !! ?? I'll take wood and LUMP
charcoal any day! (even Kingsford uses some petroleum products, but has the
least of all briquette types) I have a Weber Genesis and is a great grill,
but I only use it for hot dogs. True BBQ is low and slow! I would say get
the gas. Master that, get a Webber kettle charcoal, then maybe try a small
offset firebox smoker. Take it in steps. OK.. I am ready to eat now. I
made myself hungry!
Kevin KC8GAB
97 TJ
"L.A. Jeepster" <lajeepster@nospam.***.net> wrote in message
news:4fDhc.611$VQ3.196@lakeread06...
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on. Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the
opportunity.
> In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.
>
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man. I'm
hoping
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide
before
> I make this important decision.
>
> L.A. Jeepster
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
>
>