Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
Jack-Jack wrote:
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
#12
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
Jack-Jack wrote:
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
#13
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
Jack-Jack wrote:
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
That cannister was the death of an engine for me, so replace it ASAP.
Basically, after replacing the plastic valve cover with a new plastic one,
it sealed up things -too- well. The cannister was plugged, so the full
force of the vacuum was trying to collapse the valve cover. At some point
during a long road trip, it sucked one of those little rubber grommets that
support the valve cover down into the engine and blocked an oil drain
holes.
It was never the same after that.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
As I recall the charcoal canisters starting back in the 70's had a filter,
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
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"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
#18
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
As I recall the charcoal canisters starting back in the 70's had a filter,
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
#19
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
As I recall the charcoal canisters starting back in the 70's had a filter,
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
of sorts, on the bottom that was replaceable. I don't recall ever buying
one but vaguely recall cleaning the existing filter.
From what I recall the canisters were only considered 'ruined" if the filter
material was allowed to become saturated.
The charcoal was, if memory serves, 'activated' in part by 1500 degree
steam so boiling would not be an viable option.
I have heard several times over the years of people needing to replace a
missing charcoal filter and having no luck at dealership parts departments.
I would try at your local salvage yard and if they haven't one (which would
not surprise me) they can get you one from another yard. Most 'good'
salvage yards are on a parts locator network.
You may have to pay shipping from a yard not located in the snowbelt where
lots of 20 year old vehicles are still on the road.
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jack-Jack" <alpath@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1129578722.394753.276560@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>i am slowly bringing my 1986 Jeep CJ7 up to snuff. Today's project
> besides taking care of my kids is service of the canister. I got it
> off and there was filter at the botton looked like wall insulation VERY
> dirty & dry...it's gone now!
>
> Now what do I do the whole unit is solid right...is there any other
> service or cleaning for it. I have heard of guys boiling the charcoal
> to recharge it but again how do you get it out.
>
> I took the one cap off and cleaned those components (spring etc)
>
> Now what??
>
> Oh yeah the only like of the 4 not connected was PCV..can I just slap a
> "T" in the line running off the PCV and re-attach it.
>
#20
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Re: Charcoal Canister Off-Now What
Ok then I have been working on this all night.
I have 4 outlets on the canister...tank, carb float, PCV & dist vac.
The PCV was not hooked up and another post covered it.
Where does the dist vac go? Mine is running into the bottom of the
carb on the valve cover side. Is that correct, I don't see how it
could be.
I have an 86 CJ7 w/258 & Weber.
Thanks so much!
I have 4 outlets on the canister...tank, carb float, PCV & dist vac.
The PCV was not hooked up and another post covered it.
Where does the dist vac go? Mine is running into the bottom of the
carb on the valve cover side. Is that correct, I don't see how it
could be.
I have an 86 CJ7 w/258 & Weber.
Thanks so much!