CB Radio or PRS
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Kris wrote:
>
> Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
> It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
> common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
> dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
> travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
> antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
> to FRS in any aspect.
>
> Now, here's my preferred radio:
> http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm
>
> 73, de LA1PCA
> -Kris
>
> http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm
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Kris wrote:
>
> Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
> It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
> common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
> dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
> travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
> antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
> to FRS in any aspect.
>
> Now, here's my preferred radio:
> http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm
>
> 73, de LA1PCA
> -Kris
>
> http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm
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>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>will be spent installing it.
>
>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>install?
>
>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
(driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
place to get mobile radio information is at:
http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
past them in the mud.
Rob
wb1aex
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>will be spent installing it.
>
>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>install?
>
>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
(driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
place to get mobile radio information is at:
http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
past them in the mud.
Rob
wb1aex
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>will be spent installing it.
>
>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>install?
>
>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
(driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
place to get mobile radio information is at:
http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
past them in the mud.
Rob
wb1aex
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>will be spent installing it.
>
>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>install?
>
>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
(driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
place to get mobile radio information is at:
http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
past them in the mud.
Rob
wb1aex
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Good advice, I once use the stock AM FM antenna area for my
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
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Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Good advice, I once use the stock AM FM antenna area for my
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Good advice, I once use the stock AM FM antenna area for my
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Good advice, I once use the stock AM FM antenna area for my
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
combination CB antenna (as my stock '78 Bronco uses). Sold the '84
Thunderbird before I figured out every time I transmitted I threw it's
computer into the safe mode.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ender wrote:
>
> In my opinion, you would do well to keep the CB antenna away from the
> engine, as that is generally a noisy RF environment. Ignition impulse
> noise, computer hash, electric motors, fuel pump noise, and on and on
> can really put a dent in your radio's usefulness. On my elderly CJ5's
> I mounted 102 inch whips on the driver's side rear end of the body,
> mostly to help keep from clanging into overhanging tree limbs on
> country roads. On my XJ I mounted an L bracket NMO mount at the left
> rear hatch point, on the side that was away from the exhaust system
> (driver's side). Make sure you establish a solid mechanical and RF
> ground at the feedpoint of the antenna. This helps keep the coax from
> picking up noise and inducing it into the antenna, as well as
> establishing a counterpoise for the antenna.
>
> Power the radio by running twisted pair back to the positive +
> terminal of the battery, and then to the body groundpoint where the
> negative - terminal of the battery is connected. Fuse both of these
> at the battery end! Ground the chassis of the radio at the mounting
> point as well. Hopefully you will not run into the classic RF noise
> issues that many have experienced! As someone else suggested, a great
> place to get mobile radio information is at:
>
> http://www.eham.net/forums/MobileHam
>
> It's great fun to use the radio to rank on your buddies as you roll
> past them in the mud.
>
> Rob
> wb1aex
>
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
notice any difference.
The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
first timer but not out of the question.
-Howard.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
>shorter.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>TW wrote:
>>
>> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>> will be spent installing it.
>>
>> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>> install?
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
notice any difference.
The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
first timer but not out of the question.
-Howard.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
>shorter.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>TW wrote:
>>
>> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>> will be spent installing it.
>>
>> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>> install?
>>
>> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.


