CB Radio or PRS
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
You are mistaken.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
You are mistaken.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
You are mistaken.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
The coil can act as a pickup for noise and it can put out RF.
You should really read the TSB out on how to install a transmitter into
a new modern vehicle or you will void your vehicle warranty.
The antenna cable can and will interfere with the vehicle's onboard
electronics. It 'Will' cut out anti-lock brakes. It 'will' cut out a
Jeep automatic tranny module so every time you key up you go into
neutral. It also will interfere with the fuel injectors.
GM, Chrysler and all the rest have booklets out now on how to properly
wire a transmitter in order to avoid voiding the vehicle warranty.
GM insists on minimum 10 ga. power and ground run right to the battery
and double fused there on the opposite side of the vehicle from the
wiring harness. The antenna must run on the opposite side from the
harness too.
So for the power lines, to have a CB on the center or passenger side of
a GM van, the wires have to run up the passenger side fender to the
front of the vehicle, across the front of the radiator supports and back
to the battery. If you run them across the firewall, you void the
warranty for the vehicle's electronics, all of them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
> >The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
> >your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
> >make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
> >
> >TW wrote:
> >
> >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> >> will be spent installing it.
> >>
> >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> >> install?
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Ya????
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Ya????
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Ya????
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Ya????
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
does data.
And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
either eh?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an old-wive's
> tale... a complete myth.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> >
> > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > notice any difference.
> >
> > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > first timer but not out of the question.
> >
> > -Howard.
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > >shorter.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >TW wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> weekend
> > >> will be spent installing it.
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> antenna
> > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot).
> My
> > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left
> side
> > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such
> an
> > >> install?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> >
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Here's one nice writeup on the 18' cable myth you may enjoy reading Mike...
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
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http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Here's one nice writeup on the 18' cable myth you may enjoy reading Mike...
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Here's one nice writeup on the 18' cable myth you may enjoy reading Mike...
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/myth-1.htm
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407BF51F.15C541BE@sympatico.ca...
> Ya????
>
> Ok, but I was the system op for a mobile fleet of 150 vehicles and man
> oh man I could sure tell when someone had been messing with a cable.
>
> We were transmitting data over the system and with a messed up coax the
> retries went up exponentially. We needed an 18' or a 12' or a 6' cable
> to have good clean reception. If someone chopped 2' off in a door, I
> would need to fix it by cutting 4' more off.
>
> Now for that 'ear' test, well I guess a crackle won't hurt sound like it
> does data.
>
> And I guess having a 3' coax cable wouldn't mess up the SWR at all
> either eh?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Exactly... the 18' coax length recommendation for CB radios is an
old-wive's
> > tale... a complete myth.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Howard Eisenhauer" <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> > news:r5bm70lrn8vittitnannj9h9nfvotq23vn@4ax.com...
> > > Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> > > the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> > > just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> > > the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
> > >
> > > In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> > > possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> > > notice any difference.
> > >
> > > The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> > > getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> > > first timer but not out of the question.
> > >
> > > -Howard.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:22:38 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
> > > >shorter.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >TW wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the
> > weekend
> > > >> will be spent installing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB
> > antenna
> > > >> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and
spot).
> > My
> > > >> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the
left
> > side
> > > >> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in
the
> > > >> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of
such
> > an
> > > >> install?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
> > >