Carter 2bbl specs
04-12-2006, 01:15 AM
#41
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Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Practice makes perfect.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
04-12-2006, 01:15 AM
#42
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Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Practice makes perfect.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
04-12-2006, 01:15 AM
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Practice makes perfect.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
04-12-2006, 10:54 AM
#44
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Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Cool.
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
04-12-2006, 10:54 AM
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Cool.
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
04-12-2006, 10:54 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
Cool.
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
Mike
JohanB wrote:
>
> Hey....
>
> Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> They were clean
> double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> before swapped the gaskets.
> He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube gasket
> under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the idle
> tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
>
> Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets off
> and also put the new 1's in wrong
> ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
>
> after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> again after an hour and it fired right up
>
> Thanks yall for the tips
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The float
> > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> >
> > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They are
> > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and then
> > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> >
> > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need to
> > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I think
> > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> >
> > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> >
> > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It has
> > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the
> > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > the tank when it sits.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
04-12-2006, 11:50 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
I have seen this happen a lot. It is almost as if the designers wanted the
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
04-12-2006, 11:50 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
I have seen this happen a lot. It is almost as if the designers wanted the
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
04-12-2006, 11:50 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
I have seen this happen a lot. It is almost as if the designers wanted the
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
say that I found out about it the hard way too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> Cool.
>
> Mike
>
> JohanB wrote:
> >
> > Hey....
> >
> > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > They were clean
> > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > before swapped the gaskets.
> > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
gasket
> > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
idle
> > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> >
> > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
off
> > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> >
> > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > again after an hour and it fired right up
> >
> > Thanks yall for the tips
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
float
> > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > >
> > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
are
> > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
then
> > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > >
> > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
to
> > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
think
> > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > >
> > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
has
> > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
the
> > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > the tank when it sits.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
04-12-2006, 11:50 AM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Carter 2bbl specs-- update / fixed
The BBD kit has gaskets for both the electric model and the standard
model in it which makes it confusing right off the bat.
They have a sneaky base plate add on too. The sucker has 4 little
notches in it that have to be on the top side and not covered by a
gasket or the carb won't get vacuum to it's ports.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have seen this happen a lot. It is almost as if the designers wanted the
> carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
> extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
> model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
> professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
> say that I found out about it the hard way too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> > Cool.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JohanB wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey....
> > >
> > > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > > They were clean
> > > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > > before swapped the gaskets.
> > > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
> gasket
> > > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
> idle
> > > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> > >
> > > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
> off
> > > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> > >
> > > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > > again after an hour and it fired right up
> > >
> > > Thanks yall for the tips
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
> float
> > > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > > >
> > > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
> are
> > > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
> then
> > > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > > >
> > > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
> to
> > > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
> think
> > > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
> has
> > > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
> the
> > > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > > the tank when it sits.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
model in it which makes it confusing right off the bat.
They have a sneaky base plate add on too. The sucker has 4 little
notches in it that have to be on the top side and not covered by a
gasket or the carb won't get vacuum to it's ports.
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have seen this happen a lot. It is almost as if the designers wanted the
> carburetor to "almost work" with a gasket in wrong. Sometimes, they put
> extra gaskets in carburetor rebuild kits, that apparently don't fit any
> model carburetor ever made. I don't know how many shade tree mechanics and
> professional mechanics too have been caught by this little joke. Let's just
> say that I found out about it the hard way too.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443D14B4.4DD1B29@sympatico.ca...
> > Cool.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JohanB wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey....
> > >
> > > Took the idle tubes out like you suggested.
> > > They were clean
> > > double checked everything and found that the idiot that "overhauled " it
> > > before swapped the gaskets.
> > > He put the lower gasket between the idle tube cover and the idle tube
> gasket
> > > under the venturi cluster causing it to leave a little gap between the
> idle
> > > tube cover and venturi cluster where the gas dripped out.
> > >
> > > Off course the last idiot that worked on it just peeled the old gaskets
> off
> > > and also put the new 1's in wrong
> > > ( oh wait , that was me...... :-) )
> > >
> > > after starting it and cleaning the gas out off the manifold I started it
> > > again after an hour and it fired right up
> > >
> > > Thanks yall for the tips
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:443A6531.9C0108CB@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I have had the exact same trouble with the last kit I put in. The
> float
> > > > needle and seat were bad. The store warrantied them.
> > > >
> > > > The idle tubes are those two long brass tubes that hang down. They
> are
> > > > real sneaky for plugging up. I can just remove the choke plate and
> then
> > > > the two screws holding the venturi in and lift and twist the venturi
> > > > around so it slips out without removing the whole top of the carb for
> > > > cleaning. You have to blow through the tubes to make sure they are
> > > > clear. The tubes 'can' fall out too.
> > > >
> > > > As a note, the solvent will 'not' clear blocked tubes. They do need
> to
> > > > be reamed out with a piece of wire at the least, and oversized with a
> > > > welding torch tip drill or file to help keep the suckers clear. I
> think
> > > > half the dirt that gets in them comes from that U shaped chunk of gas
> > > > line between the filter and carb. It needs serious cleaning on most.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a link on the tubes:
> > > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget that the gas filter has to be in right side up.... It
> has
> > > > 2 outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to
> the
> > > > return line. If the return line isn't up top, gas can syphon back to
> > > > the tank when it sits.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >