Can I disable the air bag?
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Re: Can I disable the air bag?
Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
bypass the safety system.
Clint
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
> How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>> reinstall.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>> intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>> investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>> the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>
>>> If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>> way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>
>>>> Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>
>>>> Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>> door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>> both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>> provides power for both airbags.
>>>>
>>>> billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Certainly not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>> intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>> complications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>> news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>> but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>> safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>> if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>> view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>> covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>> going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>> then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>> She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>> Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>> wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>> for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>> airbags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>> in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>> tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>> I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>> the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>> I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>> injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>> bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>> care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>> Please help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry Bransford
>>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
bypass the safety system.
Clint
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
> How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>> Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>> reinstall.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>> intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>> investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>> the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>
>>> If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>> way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>
>>>> Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>
>>>> Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>> door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>> both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>> provides power for both airbags.
>>>>
>>>> billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Certainly not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>> intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>> complications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>> news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>> but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>> safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>> if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>> view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>> covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>> going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>> then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>> She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>> Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>> wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>> for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>> airbags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>> in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>> tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>> I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>> the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>> I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>> injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>> bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>> care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>> Please help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry Bransford
>>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Can I disable the air bag?
It's a known problem that people under about 5'0" tall are much more
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
Guest
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Re: Can I disable the air bag?
It's a known problem that people under about 5'0" tall are much more
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
It's a known problem that people under about 5'0" tall are much more
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
It's a known problem that people under about 5'0" tall are much more
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
likely to be injured by the air bags. The air bags were designed to
expand so that a rib cage starting more than 10" from the steering wheel
would be protected but not crushed. Short people typically move the seat
well forward so that both arms and legs will comfortably fit the
controls. Shoulder belt usually has more slop in it, wouldn't help much.
Of course, if you had a 5 point harness cranked tight like the racers
do, it's not a problem.
Dave Milne wrote:
> I would be interested to know if those people were also wearing their
> seatbelts. I suspect that wearing a seatbelt will stop you getting so close
> to an airbag when it deploys, and and as they arrest you before impact, you
> and the airbag shouldn't meet at the same speed as if you were unrestrained.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and
>
> has
>
>>to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air
>
> bag
>
>>deployed even in minor accidents.
>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
Yep, that's why I suggested deliberetly blowing the fuses and
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
Yep, that's why I suggested deliberetly blowing the fuses and
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
Yep, that's why I suggested deliberetly blowing the fuses and
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can I disable the air bag?
Yep, that's why I suggested deliberetly blowing the fuses and
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
reinstalling them, as... "find another way, an unprovable way, to stop
current flow in that circuit."
Jeff DeWitt
Clint wrote:
> Perhaps a blown fuse may imply poor maintenance, or rotten luck, but a
> pulled/missing fuse would imply deliberate action taken by an individual to
> bypass the safety system.
>
> Clint
>
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:td8Bg.29781$so3.1081@southeast.rr.com...
>
>>How is that different from just removing the fuses?
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>>>Take the fuses out, put 12v directly across them blowing the fuses, then
>>>reinstall.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If someone is killed in a vehicle where the a safety devices were
>>>>intentionally disabled, by removal of the fuses, might well lead to
>>>>investigation of manslaughter or perhaps aggravated manslaughter or at
>>>>the very least reckless endangerment.
>>>>
>>>>If you wanted to disable the system you would be wiser to find another
>>>>way, some unprovable way, to stop the current flow in that circuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:oNMAg.109945$iU2.14414@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Since when is it illegal to drive without airbags?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pulling both (BOTH!) airbag fuses found behind the glove compartment
>>>>>door will disable them. And you can't just pull one or the other since
>>>>>both fuses serve as backup to each other, each fuse individually
>>>>>provides power for both airbags.
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Certainly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Missing fuses would be a dead giveaway that the system was
>>>>>>intentionally disabled which might lead to proper legal sanctions and
>>>>>>complications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:goednd9Jm78X8E7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcas t.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can't he just take out the airbag fuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:0qGdnWyJufoq1k7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My 2000 TJ came from the factory with an airbag deactivation switch,
>>>>>>>>but that's only for the passenger side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:GVyAg.12616$Z7.4634@bignews3.bellsout h.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have heard that small people can have airbags disabled if it is a
>>>>>>>>>safety issue. I believe that a body shop could do it for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What you should do is check with your local agencies and find out
>>>>>>>>>if there are special provisions for your situation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Another thing that you should consider is your insurance company's
>>>>>>>>>view of this. In the event of a serious accident, you may not be
>>>>>>>>>covered if you have disabled the vehicle's safety features without
>>>>>>>>>going through the proper channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a friend who is a little bitty gal, if she's four feet tall
>>>>>>>>>then she's likely standing on a box.
>>>>>>>>>She was in an accident about three weeks ago and the air bags Mike
>>>>>>>>>Tyson punched her big time. From the way she looked after the
>>>>>>>>>wreck, I think you are definitely thinking on the right direction
>>>>>>>>>for your wife. My friend was pretty badly beat up by just the
>>>>>>>>>airbags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hope it all works out for you, and that never needs them. Do stop
>>>>>>>>>in and post your experience and any info that you come up with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kate
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dennis" <dennis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:meWdncOgvLBdN0_ZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@com cast.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 "
>>>>>>>>>>tall and has to sit really close to the steering wheel.
>>>>>>>>>>I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when
>>>>>>>>>>the air bag deployed even in minor accidents.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck
>>>>>>>>>>injury because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air
>>>>>>>>>>bag system. I've heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't
>>>>>>>>>>care. I would rather worry less about her safety.
>>>>>>>>>>Please help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
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Re: Can I disable the air bag?
See:
<URL:http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/airbags/pages/FAQsABOnOff.htm>
Dennis wrote:
> My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and has
> to sit really close to the steering wheel.
> I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air bag
> deployed even in minor accidents.
> I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck injury
> because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air bag system. I've
> heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't care. I would rather worry
> less about her safety.
> Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
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<URL:http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/airbags/pages/FAQsABOnOff.htm>
Dennis wrote:
> My wife drives a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport. She is only 4' 10 " tall and has
> to sit really close to the steering wheel.
> I've read where people have been severely injured or killed when the air bag
> deployed even in minor accidents.
> I'm worried that she may be at a higher risk of getting a neck injury
> because of her small size. Is there a way to disarm the air bag system. I've
> heard that it's illegal to do this but we don't care. I would rather worry
> less about her safety.
> Please help.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
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