Cal's YJ: First ride!
09-30-2003, 09:27 PM
#31
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnk4q6k8tplbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
> after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ.
Cost?
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
> > It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F790474.85FCB59B@***.net...
> > > I'm curious as to why you didn't go with the reverse 44, it's
> > > stronger when used as a front axle, and seeing you're paying top
dollar,
> > > it's not like you found a hundred dollar Scout Dana 44. And your YJ
> > > should have come with a reverse 30 and constant velocity joint, but
> > > probably too small to use with the 44.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94
YJ.
> > It
> > > > took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate
driveline
> > > > vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at
> > nearly
> > > > any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from
> Hi-Angle
> > > > Driveline, very well made unit.
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
> > > > > Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next
> > mod.
> > > > > I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the
> > suspension
> > > > too
> > > > > much for on-road travel.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some
> big
> > ol'
> > > > > tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
> > > > >
> > > > > About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If
> CV
> > and
> > > > > the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think
the
> > angle
> > > > > would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the
front.
> > Hey
> > > > > man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The
waiting
> is
> > > > > killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle
> > season,
> > > > but
> > > > > it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing
> opening
> > > > day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > > 92YJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > > > > Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it
after
> a
> > > > > > month up on blocks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods
> > sent me
> > > > > > a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed
my
> > new
> > > > > > Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the
brakes,
> > threw
> > > > > > on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment,
> worried
> > > > > > about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with
31's
> > and a
> > > > > > 7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
> > > > > > aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny
> > amount
> > > > > > of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it
> > felt
> > > > > > before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town"
> > driving,
> > > > > > max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading
> far
> > > > > > higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and
> use
> > a
> > > > > GPS).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch
> > lights
> > > > > > up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I
> can't
> > > > > > tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a
> > voltmeter
> > > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get
in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three
> > wheel
> > > > > > wells (did one for a look-see).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should
have.
> I
> > > > > > spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the
angle
> on
> > the
> > > > > > driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of
> the
> > skid
> > > > > > plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front
> > shaft
> > > > > > in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnk4q6k8tplbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
> after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ.
Cost?
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
> > It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3F790474.85FCB59B@***.net...
> > > I'm curious as to why you didn't go with the reverse 44, it's
> > > stronger when used as a front axle, and seeing you're paying top
dollar,
> > > it's not like you found a hundred dollar Scout Dana 44. And your YJ
> > > should have come with a reverse 30 and constant velocity joint, but
> > > probably too small to use with the 44.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94
YJ.
> > It
> > > > took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate
driveline
> > > > vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at
> > nearly
> > > > any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from
> Hi-Angle
> > > > Driveline, very well made unit.
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
> > > > > Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next
> > mod.
> > > > > I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the
> > suspension
> > > > too
> > > > > much for on-road travel.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some
> big
> > ol'
> > > > > tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
> > > > >
> > > > > About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If
> CV
> > and
> > > > > the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think
the
> > angle
> > > > > would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the
front.
> > Hey
> > > > > man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The
waiting
> is
> > > > > killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle
> > season,
> > > > but
> > > > > it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing
> opening
> > > > day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > > 92YJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > > > > Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it
after
> a
> > > > > > month up on blocks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods
> > sent me
> > > > > > a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed
my
> > new
> > > > > > Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the
brakes,
> > threw
> > > > > > on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment,
> worried
> > > > > > about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with
31's
> > and a
> > > > > > 7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
> > > > > > aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny
> > amount
> > > > > > of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it
> > felt
> > > > > > before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town"
> > driving,
> > > > > > max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading
> far
> > > > > > higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and
> use
> > a
> > > > > GPS).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch
> > lights
> > > > > > up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I
> can't
> > > > > > tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a
> > voltmeter
> > > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get
in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three
> > wheel
> > > > > > wells (did one for a look-see).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should
have.
> I
> > > > > > spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the
angle
> on
> > the
> > > > > > driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of
> the
> > skid
> > > > > > plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front
> > shaft
> > > > > > in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
09-30-2003, 10:50 PM
#32
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
In article <XrSdndqVauw3sOeiU-KYgw@comcast.com>, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
writes:
>What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
>made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
>
>--
The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
writes:
>What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
>made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
>
>--
The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
09-30-2003, 10:50 PM
#33
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
In article <XrSdndqVauw3sOeiU-KYgw@comcast.com>, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
writes:
>What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
>made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
>
>--
The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
writes:
>What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
>made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
>
>--
The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
09-30-2003, 10:50 PM
#34
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
In article <vnk4q6k8tplbfd@corp.supernews.com>, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
>after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ. Cost?
>
>"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
>> It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
>>
>> Terry.
Clearance to keep the driveshaft from hitting the exhaust, I believe.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
>after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ. Cost?
>
>"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
>> It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
>>
>> Terry.
Clearance to keep the driveshaft from hitting the exhaust, I believe.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
09-30-2003, 10:50 PM
#35
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
In article <vnk4q6k8tplbfd@corp.supernews.com>, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
>after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ. Cost?
>
>"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
>> It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
>>
>> Terry.
Clearance to keep the driveshaft from hitting the exhaust, I believe.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>Indeed. I still can't figure why DC installed a low pinion D30 in the TJ
>after they'd established high pinion versions before in the YJ and XJ. Cost?
>
>"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1064964294.368471@r02.usenetserver.com...
>> It came stock with a front reverse cut 30, but no CV style driveshaft.
>>
>> Terry.
Clearance to keep the driveshaft from hitting the exhaust, I believe.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
09-30-2003, 11:43 PM
#36
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94 YJ. It
> took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate driveline
> vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at nearly
> any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from Hi-Angle
> Driveline, very well made unit.
I ordered a CV shaft from Tom Woods because I knew that angle would
demand it, and since the original would no longer fit...
I have a lot of travel now, though, especially with the revolver
shackles. If I hand turn and feel binding at full droop then I'm going
to go for a _double_ CV shaft.
Still waiting for Woods to send me the correct yoke. I took the original
out, went to put in the new one they supplied...too big. I was able to
put the old one back in, but now I need a new oil seal.
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
>
>>Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
>>I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension
>
> too
>
>>much for on-road travel.
>>
>>I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
>>tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
>>
>>About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
>>the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
>>would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front. Hey
>>man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
>>killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season,
>
> but
>
>>it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening
>
> day.
>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Terry.
>>92YJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>>month up on blocks.
>>>
>>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>>
>>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>>
>>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>>
>>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>>
>>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>>
>>>However:
>>>
>>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>>
>>GPS).
>>
>>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>>tomorrow.
>>>
>>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>>
>>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>>
>>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>>
>>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94 YJ. It
> took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate driveline
> vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at nearly
> any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from Hi-Angle
> Driveline, very well made unit.
I ordered a CV shaft from Tom Woods because I knew that angle would
demand it, and since the original would no longer fit...
I have a lot of travel now, though, especially with the revolver
shackles. If I hand turn and feel binding at full droop then I'm going
to go for a _double_ CV shaft.
Still waiting for Woods to send me the correct yoke. I took the original
out, went to put in the new one they supplied...too big. I was able to
put the old one back in, but now I need a new oil seal.
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
>
>>Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
>>I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension
>
> too
>
>>much for on-road travel.
>>
>>I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
>>tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
>>
>>About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
>>the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
>>would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front. Hey
>>man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
>>killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season,
>
> but
>
>>it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening
>
> day.
>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Terry.
>>92YJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>>month up on blocks.
>>>
>>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>>
>>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>>
>>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>>
>>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>>
>>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>>
>>>However:
>>>
>>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>>
>>GPS).
>>
>>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>>tomorrow.
>>>
>>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>>
>>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>>
>>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>>
>>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-30-2003, 11:43 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94 YJ. It
> took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate driveline
> vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at nearly
> any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from Hi-Angle
> Driveline, very well made unit.
I ordered a CV shaft from Tom Woods because I knew that angle would
demand it, and since the original would no longer fit...
I have a lot of travel now, though, especially with the revolver
shackles. If I hand turn and feel binding at full droop then I'm going
to go for a _double_ CV shaft.
Still waiting for Woods to send me the correct yoke. I took the original
out, went to put in the new one they supplied...too big. I was able to
put the old one back in, but now I need a new oil seal.
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
>
>>Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
>>I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension
>
> too
>
>>much for on-road travel.
>>
>>I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
>>tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
>>
>>About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
>>the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
>>would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front. Hey
>>man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
>>killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season,
>
> but
>
>>it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening
>
> day.
>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Terry.
>>92YJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>>month up on blocks.
>>>
>>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>>
>>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>>
>>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>>
>>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>>
>>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>>
>>>However:
>>>
>>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>>
>>GPS).
>>
>>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>>tomorrow.
>>>
>>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>>
>>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>>
>>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>>
>>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> FWIW, I also have a low pinion Dynatrac D44 in the front of my '94 YJ. It
> took a double-cardan CV at the Atlas II t-case to eliminate driveline
> vibration & noise in 4wd Hi. However, it's now smooth as butter at nearly
> any speed, better than the stock D30. I got the driveshaft from Hi-Angle
> Driveline, very well made unit.
I ordered a CV shaft from Tom Woods because I knew that angle would
demand it, and since the original would no longer fit...
I have a lot of travel now, though, especially with the revolver
shackles. If I hand turn and feel binding at full droop then I'm going
to go for a _double_ CV shaft.
Still waiting for Woods to send me the correct yoke. I took the original
out, went to put in the new one they supplied...too big. I was able to
put the old one back in, but now I need a new oil seal.
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1064885414.358433@rh9cache2...
>
>>Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
>>I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension
>
> too
>
>>much for on-road travel.
>>
>>I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
>>tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
>>
>>About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
>>the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
>>would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front. Hey
>>man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
>>killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season,
>
> but
>
>>it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening
>
> day.
>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>Terry.
>>92YJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>>month up on blocks.
>>>
>>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>>
>>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>>
>>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>>
>>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>>
>>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>>
>>>However:
>>>
>>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>>
>>GPS).
>>
>>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>>tomorrow.
>>>
>>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>>
>>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>>
>>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>>
>>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
09-30-2003, 11:55 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
> I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension too
> much for on-road travel.
I haven't off-roaded yet, have driven it to work sites the past two
days, had it up to 80 mph on the freeway, and man, does it handle great.
No track bars, no sway bar. Just new Rancho shocks and the same old 2.5"
5-leaf lift spring packs it came with. I've slowly crept up my top speed
until I feel safe and sure. A buddy commented on how good it handled.
However, my axles are now 13" wider than they used to be, too. That has
a lot to do with the feeling of stability, I feel.
>
> I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
> tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
True. I don't even notice any deficiencies now. I just know when to step
on the brakes.
>
> About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
> the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
> would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front.
CV. Once I get the proper yoke, I'll bolt it up and check it out. I like
being able to hoist the whole thing in the air and turning the shaft by
hand at full droop or full compression to check for binding. I'm
skeptical, but we'll see.
Hey
> man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
> killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season, but
> it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening day.
I hear ya. It was agonizing waiting for my axles. D60 front! Now that's
hard core! I'll wait until I bust the new 44, then I'll think about it!
>
> Good luck.
You, too!
>
> Terry.
> 92YJ
>
>
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>month up on blocks.
>>
>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>
>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>
>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>
>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>
>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>
>>However:
>>
>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>
> GPS).
>
>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>tomorrow.
>>
>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>
>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>
>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>
>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
> I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension too
> much for on-road travel.
I haven't off-roaded yet, have driven it to work sites the past two
days, had it up to 80 mph on the freeway, and man, does it handle great.
No track bars, no sway bar. Just new Rancho shocks and the same old 2.5"
5-leaf lift spring packs it came with. I've slowly crept up my top speed
until I feel safe and sure. A buddy commented on how good it handled.
However, my axles are now 13" wider than they used to be, too. That has
a lot to do with the feeling of stability, I feel.
>
> I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
> tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
True. I don't even notice any deficiencies now. I just know when to step
on the brakes.
>
> About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
> the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
> would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front.
CV. Once I get the proper yoke, I'll bolt it up and check it out. I like
being able to hoist the whole thing in the air and turning the shaft by
hand at full droop or full compression to check for binding. I'm
skeptical, but we'll see.
Hey
> man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
> killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season, but
> it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening day.
I hear ya. It was agonizing waiting for my axles. D60 front! Now that's
hard core! I'll wait until I bust the new 44, then I'll think about it!
>
> Good luck.
You, too!
>
> Terry.
> 92YJ
>
>
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>month up on blocks.
>>
>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>
>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>
>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>
>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>
>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>
>>However:
>>
>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>
> GPS).
>
>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>tomorrow.
>>
>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>
>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>
>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>
>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
09-30-2003, 11:55 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
> I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension too
> much for on-road travel.
I haven't off-roaded yet, have driven it to work sites the past two
days, had it up to 80 mph on the freeway, and man, does it handle great.
No track bars, no sway bar. Just new Rancho shocks and the same old 2.5"
5-leaf lift spring packs it came with. I've slowly crept up my top speed
until I feel safe and sure. A buddy commented on how good it handled.
However, my axles are now 13" wider than they used to be, too. That has
a lot to do with the feeling of stability, I feel.
>
> I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
> tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
True. I don't even notice any deficiencies now. I just know when to step
on the brakes.
>
> About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
> the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
> would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front.
CV. Once I get the proper yoke, I'll bolt it up and check it out. I like
being able to hoist the whole thing in the air and turning the shaft by
hand at full droop or full compression to check for binding. I'm
skeptical, but we'll see.
Hey
> man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
> killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season, but
> it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening day.
I hear ya. It was agonizing waiting for my axles. D60 front! Now that's
hard core! I'll wait until I bust the new 44, then I'll think about it!
>
> Good luck.
You, too!
>
> Terry.
> 92YJ
>
>
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>month up on blocks.
>>
>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>
>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>
>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>
>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>
>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>
>>However:
>>
>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>
> GPS).
>
>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>tomorrow.
>>
>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>
>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>
>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>
>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Let us know how that spring-over turns out. That could be my next mod.
> I've shyed away from it so far, thinking it will screw up the suspension too
> much for on-road travel.
I haven't off-roaded yet, have driven it to work sites the past two
days, had it up to 80 mph on the freeway, and man, does it handle great.
No track bars, no sway bar. Just new Rancho shocks and the same old 2.5"
5-leaf lift spring packs it came with. I've slowly crept up my top speed
until I feel safe and sure. A buddy commented on how good it handled.
However, my axles are now 13" wider than they used to be, too. That has
a lot to do with the feeling of stability, I feel.
>
> I've been pleased with the MPB kit too. Remember, those are some big ol'
> tires you gotta stop. Can't expect to stop instantly.
True. I don't even notice any deficiencies now. I just know when to step
on the brakes.
>
> About your front D44 front, did you get a CV or non-CV set up? If CV and
> the mid-section is pointed towards the t-case, I wouldn't think the angle
> would be too awfully severe for the longer driveshaft in the front.
CV. Once I get the proper yoke, I'll bolt it up and check it out. I like
being able to hoist the whole thing in the air and turning the shaft by
hand at full droop or full compression to check for binding. I'm
skeptical, but we'll see.
Hey
> man, my new D60 front should be here in a week or two. The waiting is
> killing me! I was hoping to get it installed before deer rifle season, but
> it doesn't look like that will happen now - I won't be missing opening day.
I hear ya. It was agonizing waiting for my axles. D60 front! Now that's
hard core! I'll wait until I bust the new 44, then I'll think about it!
>
> Good luck.
You, too!
>
> Terry.
> 92YJ
>
>
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bl61qf$p0b$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>Well gents, she ain't fininshed, but I was antsy to drive it after a
>>month up on blocks.
>>
>>I still haven't got my front driveshaft hooked up yet; Tom Woods sent me
>>a new CV shaft, but the yoke splines are too big for my NP 231.
>>
>>But the meats were on, and so were the shocks, and I installed my new
>>Master Power Brake master cylinder/booster, so I bled the brakes, threw
>>on the skid plate, and went for a ride!
>>
>>I was worried about the brakes, worried about the alignment, worried
>>about the handling difference between a 2.5 spring lift with 31's and a
>>7.5' SOA lift with 37 inch Super Swampers.
>>
>>I gotta say, I was VERY pleasantly surprised. Without getting it
>>aligned, it tracks straight and true. I had set it up for a tiny amount
>>of toe-in. It handles and feels almost identically to the way it felt
>>before, except that the tires are now much *quieter*!
>>
>>No "death wobble", no wankiness. Now this is just "around-town" driving,
>>max 50 mph. I haven't gone freeway speeds, yet.
>>
>>However:
>>
>>I need to re-adjust the speedo plug in the t-case; it's reading far
>>higher mph than I'm actually travelling (or I could get lazy and use a
>
> GPS).
>
>>I installed the ARB lines and electrical. The compressor switch lights
>>up and runs the pumnp, but the actuator switches are so loud I can't
>>tell if the solenoids are engaging or not. I'll check with a voltmeter
>>tomorrow.
>>
>>The thing is TALL and I have to be very acrobatic just to get in.
>>
>>Need to finish the fenders, and need to cut away the other three wheel
>>wells (did one for a look-see).
>>
>>Worst part: I didn't order a high-pinion front D44. I should have. I
>>spent $4500 on the axle and the thing is low pinion, so the angle on the
>>driveshaft is steep, and I'm going to have to cut a slot out of the skid
>>plate to accommodate it. Live and learn.
>>
>>Overall impression: It's bitchin! I can't wait to get the front shaft
>>in, lock up those lockers, and try some real obstacle hoppin'!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
10-01-2003, 09:02 AM
#40
Guest
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Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!
Actually, I was thinking of a high pinion D60! LOL, dream on, Jim...
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Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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> In article <XrSdndqVauw3sOeiU-KYgw@comcast.com>, "TJim"
<jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
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> >What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
> >made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
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> The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
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> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030930225015.14837.00003319@mb-m03.aol.com...
> In article <XrSdndqVauw3sOeiU-KYgw@comcast.com>, "TJim"
<jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> writes:
>
> >What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would have
> >made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper!
> >
> >--
>
> The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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