Cal's YJ-Air Spring setup Prototyped: 4.5" lift!
10-27-2003, 04:09 AM
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Cal's YJ-Air Spring setup Prototyped: 4.5" lift!
Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
that was compression, and 7" was extension.
I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
compression/extension imbalance.
So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
giving a little more compression travel.
The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
(12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
Cal Wheeler
94 YJ
Grant No Wheel No Steal system
Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
5.13 Gearing
Herculiner interior
37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
JB Conversions SYE kit
Upgraded Master Cylinder
Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
Custom Extended rear fenders
K&N filter
NOS system with Propane Turbo
4xDoctor Rock Rails
Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
Liz Phair
I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
Yet to do:
Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
Tomken Doal battery tray
Hellroaring dual batt combiner
Safari Snorkel
Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
Front Fender extensions
Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
that was compression, and 7" was extension.
I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
compression/extension imbalance.
So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
giving a little more compression travel.
The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
(12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
Cal Wheeler
94 YJ
Grant No Wheel No Steal system
Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
5.13 Gearing
Herculiner interior
37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
JB Conversions SYE kit
Upgraded Master Cylinder
Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
Custom Extended rear fenders
K&N filter
NOS system with Propane Turbo
4xDoctor Rock Rails
Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
Liz Phair
I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
Yet to do:
Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
Tomken Doal battery tray
Hellroaring dual batt combiner
Safari Snorkel
Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
Front Fender extensions
Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
10-27-2003, 08:55 AM
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Re: Cal's YJ-Air Spring setup Prototyped: 4.5" lift!
Cool!!! Pics ASAP please!
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
10-27-2003, 08:55 AM
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Re: Cal's YJ-Air Spring setup Prototyped: 4.5" lift!
Cool!!! Pics ASAP please!
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
10-27-2003, 08:55 AM
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Re: Cal's YJ-Air Spring setup Prototyped: 4.5" lift!
Cool!!! Pics ASAP please!
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bnincb$etk$0@pita.alt.net...
> Hey, y'all. If you recall, I did a SOA on my 94 YH and some fender
> trimming to fit my 37" SuperSwamper SSRs (37x10.5 on 10 Black Rock
> Crawlers, 5 on 5.5").
>
> With Teraflex/Revolver folding shackles front and back, I was getting a
> bit over 10 inches of articulation on each rear wheel. However, 3" of
> that was compression, and 7" was extension.
>
> I hadn't yet installed bumpstops, so I was finding I was bottoming out
> pretty hard. The cheap, easy thing would have been to simply install
> some bumpstops. But that wouldn't have addressed my
> compression/extension imbalance.
>
> So I finished today prototyping an Air Spring system (for the left rear,
> anyway). So far, it gives me a full 4.5" of active lift. That's 4.5" I
> can use to "cush" or stiffen my ride, for off-camber correction, or for
> giving a little more compression travel.
>
> The key was to let it act passively when I don't want to use it, so it
> just acts as a soft bump stop, and allow the components to articulate as
> much as they can without restriction. It's basically got a 1/2-13 bolt
> (12" long) that sticks up through the frame (yes, drilled 5/8" hole
> through the frame) and telescopes inside a guide tube there. A 3/8 steel
> plate sits atop the ubolts, and the air spring attaches to the plate.
>
> The plan is to dupe the right rear, then prototype the front with a
> similar set-up. Then have individual, 4 corner solenoid valve control. I
> think I'm going to need a second tank to augment the locker air tank.
>
> I'll post pics and/or vid SOON!
>
> Cal Wheeler
> 94 YJ
> Grant No Wheel No Steal system
> Dynatrac ProRock 60 rear w/ ARB
> Dynatrac Dana 44 Front w/ ARB
> 5.13 Gearing
> Herculiner interior
> 37x10.5 SuperSwamper SSRs
> Tom Woods CV shafts fore and aft
> JB Conversions SYE kit
> Upgraded Master Cylinder
> Custom Rear fuel/space swingaway rack
> Custom Extended rear fenders
> K&N filter
> NOS system with Propane Turbo
> 4xDoctor Rock Rails
> Removable Warn 9500i winch with elec. connects front and back
> iPod with rockin' tunes like Utah Saints, Static-X, Chemical Bros, and
> Liz Phair
> I Was Just BSing about the NOS and Propane.
>
> Yet to do:
> Borla Headers and exhaust in a box waiting their turn!
> Tomken Doal battery tray
> Hellroaring dual batt combiner
> Safari Snorkel
> Individual 4 corner air spring suspension adjustment
> Front Fender extensions
> Waterproofing as per Mike Romain's suggestions
>
>
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