Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Pull the sparks and crank the water out, but more than likely the
damage had already been done.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rhubarb wrote:
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

TJ air intakes are at just below hood level. YJs had a notorious intake tube
that was below the headlights. Easily discarded.

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Esoeb.130914$bo1.124426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> > You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> > have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> > lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> > engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water
way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed
up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a
major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> > Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> > garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> > take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> > stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> > contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> > that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> > parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> > parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> > pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> > I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> > When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> > have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> > Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> > when I got back.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens
again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

TJ air intakes are at just below hood level. YJs had a notorious intake tube
that was below the headlights. Easily discarded.

"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Esoeb.130914$bo1.124426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> > You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> > have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> > lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> > engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water
way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed
up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a
major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> > Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> > garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> > take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> > stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> > contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> > that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> > parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> > parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> > pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> > I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> > When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> > have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> > Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> > when I got back.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens
again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Rhubarb wrote:
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
<snip>
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.

I was the one on the other side taking the photos.

He approached the water correctly moving slow to make a bow wave, but
the unknown to him or us, air scoop got him. Steve in the red YJ in the
photo didn't have that scoop on his YJ, we looked and Steve bought his
new too.

He was running properly at low rpm when it happened so got lucky and it
didn't hurt the engine. High rpm and water make for a 'blown all to
pieces' engine.

Off road mantra: Go as slow as you 'can' and as fast as you 'need'
to.....

I told him to try the starter just once when it died, the engine didn't
budge so I told him to stop.

When we pulled him out and pulled the plugs, 3 cylinders shot water out
big time, 2 a bit of water. I missed the photo! I clicked the camera
too fast! Grr.... Digital cameras take time to save so Steve even
missed me with my hood submerged with his digital. Grrrr again...

Then his exhaust was 'full'. It gave one burp that looked like a fire
hose output so we went under and figured out his aftermarket muffler
doesn't have the 1/8" drain hole the stock one has, so we drilled one
with Steve's portable drill and stood on the bumper to help it drain.

It then fired up and smoked like a bugger for a while, got photos of
that too, but just 'white' water smoke, no blue.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Rhubarb wrote:
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
<snip>
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.

I was the one on the other side taking the photos.

He approached the water correctly moving slow to make a bow wave, but
the unknown to him or us, air scoop got him. Steve in the red YJ in the
photo didn't have that scoop on his YJ, we looked and Steve bought his
new too.

He was running properly at low rpm when it happened so got lucky and it
didn't hurt the engine. High rpm and water make for a 'blown all to
pieces' engine.

Off road mantra: Go as slow as you 'can' and as fast as you 'need'
to.....

I told him to try the starter just once when it died, the engine didn't
budge so I told him to stop.

When we pulled him out and pulled the plugs, 3 cylinders shot water out
big time, 2 a bit of water. I missed the photo! I clicked the camera
too fast! Grr.... Digital cameras take time to save so Steve even
missed me with my hood submerged with his digital. Grrrr again...

Then his exhaust was 'full'. It gave one burp that looked like a fire
hose output so we went under and figured out his aftermarket muffler
doesn't have the 1/8" drain hole the stock one has, so we drilled one
with Steve's portable drill and stood on the bumper to help it drain.

It then fired up and smoked like a bugger for a while, got photos of
that too, but just 'white' water smoke, no blue.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

If it cranked over, it wasn't hydro locked.

--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Esoeb.130914$bo1.124426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> > You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> > have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> > lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> > engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water
way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed
up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a
major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> > Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> > garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> > take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> > stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> > contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> > that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> > parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> > parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> > pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> > I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> > When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> > have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> > Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> > when I got back.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens
again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

If it cranked over, it wasn't hydro locked.

--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


"Rhubarb" <billy@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Esoeb.130914$bo1.124426@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> > You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> > have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> > lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> > engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water
way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed
up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a
major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> > Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> > garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> > take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> > stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> > contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> > that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> > parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> > parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> > pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> > I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> > When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> > have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> > Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> > when I got back.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens
again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu
>
>

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A1738.DCE706BA@cox.net...
> Pull the sparks and crank the water out, but more than likely the
> damage had already been done.

To late for that unfortunately :(

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A1738.DCE706BA@cox.net...
> Pull the sparks and crank the water out, but more than likely the
> damage had already been done.

To late for that unfortunately :(

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7A2B0A.CE207F2F@sympatico.ca...
>
>
> Rhubarb wrote:
> >
> > "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> <snip>
> >
> > What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens
again.....).
> > Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> > snorkel installed.
>
> I was the one on the other side taking the photos.
>
> He approached the water correctly moving slow to make a bow wave, but
> the unknown to him or us, air scoop got him. Steve in the red YJ in the
> photo didn't have that scoop on his YJ, we looked and Steve bought his
> new too.
>
> He was running properly at low rpm when it happened so got lucky and it
> didn't hurt the engine. High rpm and water make for a 'blown all to
> pieces' engine.
>
> Off road mantra: Go as slow as you 'can' and as fast as you 'need'
> to.....
>
> I told him to try the starter just once when it died, the engine didn't
> budge so I told him to stop.
>
> When we pulled him out and pulled the plugs, 3 cylinders shot water out
> big time, 2 a bit of water. I missed the photo! I clicked the camera
> too fast! Grr.... Digital cameras take time to save so Steve even
> missed me with my hood submerged with his digital. Grrrr again...
>
> Then his exhaust was 'full'. It gave one burp that looked like a fire
> hose output so we went under and figured out his aftermarket muffler
> doesn't have the 1/8" drain hole the stock one has, so we drilled one
> with Steve's portable drill and stood on the bumper to help it drain.
>
> It then fired up and smoked like a bugger for a while, got photos of
> that too, but just 'white' water smoke, no blue.

Thanks for that - if I ever see anyone else in the same situation at least
I'll know what should be done.

Cheers,
Rhu