Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Thanks your help guys.

Unfortunately the end result it pretty bad. The engine suffered hydro lock,
bending values, breaking conrods, and punching bits and pieces (that's
the technical term) through the engine block.

The mechanic started looking at it yesterday arvo, we should have the full
prognosis tonight.

Thanks for your help again,
Cheers,
Rhu

P.S She isn't a blonde but bloody well should be.

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
engine several times when it was hydro locked?

Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.

I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
when I got back.

Make sure you question evey item the mechanic says.

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
engine several times when it was hydro locked?

Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.

I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
when I got back.

Make sure you question evey item the mechanic says.

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Snowboardripper wrote:
>
> You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> when I got back.
>
> Make sure you question evey item the mechanic says.

I have seen some TJ's I 'think' with that stupid fresh air scoop below
the headlight like your YJ had.

That is trouble waiting for a bad place to happen.

And yup, if you see a 150 lb dog making swimming motions and ready to
bail out of the back seat of what is in front of you, take a second
thought about following the fool! LOL!

Man when my hood went under water (42" to the bottom of my lights) I was
about to stop not knowing just 'how' deep this stupid crossing was, only
knowing a Sami had made it the day before and my wife yelled, 'well
don't freakin' stop now!', I gave it and made it. My poor old mutt
wasn't impressed though, the water was over the seats.

Here is a photo of a YJ about to hydrolock that everyone can view:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292076845

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Snowboardripper wrote:
>
> You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> engine several times when it was hydro locked?
>
> Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.
>
> I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> when I got back.
>
> Make sure you question evey item the mechanic says.

I have seen some TJ's I 'think' with that stupid fresh air scoop below
the headlight like your YJ had.

That is trouble waiting for a bad place to happen.

And yup, if you see a 150 lb dog making swimming motions and ready to
bail out of the back seat of what is in front of you, take a second
thought about following the fool! LOL!

Man when my hood went under water (42" to the bottom of my lights) I was
about to stop not knowing just 'how' deep this stupid crossing was, only
knowing a Sami had made it the day before and my wife yelled, 'well
don't freakin' stop now!', I gave it and made it. My poor old mutt
wasn't impressed though, the water was over the seats.

Here is a photo of a YJ about to hydrolock that everyone can view:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292076845

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

LOL.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have seen some TJ's I 'think' with that stupid fresh air scoop below
> the headlight like your YJ had.
>
> That is trouble waiting for a bad place to happen.
>
> And yup, if you see a 150 lb dog making swimming motions and ready to
> bail out of the back seat of what is in front of you, take a second
> thought about following the fool! LOL!
>
> Man when my hood went under water (42" to the bottom of my lights) I was
> about to stop not knowing just 'how' deep this stupid crossing was, only
> knowing a Sami had made it the day before and my wife yelled, 'well
> don't freakin' stop now!', I gave it and made it. My poor old mutt
> wasn't impressed though, the water was over the seats.
>
> Here is a photo of a YJ about to hydrolock that everyone can view:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292076845
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

LOL.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have seen some TJ's I 'think' with that stupid fresh air scoop below
> the headlight like your YJ had.
>
> That is trouble waiting for a bad place to happen.
>
> And yup, if you see a 150 lb dog making swimming motions and ready to
> bail out of the back seat of what is in front of you, take a second
> thought about following the fool! LOL!
>
> Man when my hood went under water (42" to the bottom of my lights) I was
> about to stop not knowing just 'how' deep this stupid crossing was, only
> knowing a Sami had made it the day before and my wife yelled, 'well
> don't freakin' stop now!', I gave it and made it. My poor old mutt
> wasn't impressed though, the water was over the seats.
>
> Here is a photo of a YJ about to hydrolock that everyone can view:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292076845
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

"Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> engine several times when it was hydro locked?

The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water way
to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed up
every where.

Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a major
weak point with the vechiles off road ability.

She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
locked.

> Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.

Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.

> I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> when I got back.

What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
snorkel installed.

Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.

Cheers,
Rhu

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

"Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:72ce17be.0309300638.2349f708@posting.google.c om...
> You should talk with her and get the facts about what happened. You
> have to be deep water to hydro lock a TJ (3 or 4 feet depending on
> lift). The air intake is very high. Also, did she try to start the
> engine several times when it was hydro locked?

The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water way
to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed up
every where.

Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a major
weak point with the vechiles off road ability.

She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
locked.

> Make sure you get a second opinion on the repairs. If you told the
> garage that you took it offroading and told him the story they will
> take you for a ride. You should also check the oil level. If the dip
> stick contains oil with water or the level is high then it could
> contain water. Tell him you are broke and cannot afford to fix it and
> that you want used parts installed. Also ask for ALL the replaced
> parts back. This way he cannot rip you off my reconditioning your own
> parts or saying something was replaced when it was not. Be a real
> pain in the ASS to the guy and question everything.

Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.

> I hydro locked my jeep after following Mike through a beaver dam.
> When I saw his lab dog swimming in the back of his jeep that should
> have set of a warning light. But there was no damage to the jeep.
> Replaced the air filter and removed the water and changed the fluids
> when I got back.

What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
snorkel installed.

Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.

Cheers,
Rhu

Re: Broken Jeep Wrangler TJ
 

Pull the sparks and crank the water out, but more than likely the
damage had already been done.
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Rhubarb wrote:
>
> The TJ has no lift, only 31" rubber. The water would of been around the
> depth you mentioned, more importantly I think is that she hit the water way
> to fast, so rather than creating a bow wave water would of been splashed up
> every where.
>
> Also as Mike mentioned in the next post I think the air intake isn't that
> high - and is below the head light. We have also known that this was a major
> weak point with the vechiles off road ability.
>
> She did try to start it many times afterwards - not knowing it was hydro
> locked.
>
> Fortunately the mechcanic is a close trusted friend of the family and is
> already doing everything to reduce the cost of repairs. Further more it
> looks like insurance will cover the repair costs.
>
> What did you do to avoid damage? (Just in case it ever happens again.....).
> Mind you as soon as we get the Jeep back on the road it will be having a
> snorkel installed.
>
> Thanks very much for you advice, it is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Rhu