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Re: Brand new '89 YJ
That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid
is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the starter is turning. You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) The Merg wrote: > Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, so > I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. > > We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's just > no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there was any > power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this thing was a > new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. > I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing > light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't have > spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released from > 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. > So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition wiring > problem? > There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on > carburetors, but that's another show. > > Carl S wrote: >> So jealous..... >> >> Carl >> >> >> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>> neutral this time. >>> >>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>> >>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>> done. >>> >> >> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid
is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the starter is turning. You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) The Merg wrote: > Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, so > I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. > > We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's just > no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there was any > power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this thing was a > new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. > I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing > light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't have > spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released from > 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. > So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition wiring > problem? > There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on > carburetors, but that's another show. > > Carl S wrote: >> So jealous..... >> >> Carl >> >> >> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>> neutral this time. >>> >>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>> >>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>> done. >>> >> >> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid
is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the starter is turning. You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) The Merg wrote: > Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, so > I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. > > We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's just > no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there was any > power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this thing was a > new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. > I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing > light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't have > spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released from > 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. > So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition wiring > problem? > There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on > carburetors, but that's another show. > > Carl S wrote: >> So jealous..... >> >> Carl >> >> >> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>> neutral this time. >>> >>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>> >>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>> done. >>> >> >> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over
anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got yanked out). By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? Here's the picture: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg Mike Romain wrote: > That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid > is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the > starter is turning. > > You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then > starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > The Merg wrote: >> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >> >> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >> wiring problem? >> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >> carburetors, but that's another show. >> >> Carl S wrote: >>> So jealous..... >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>> neutral this time. >>>> >>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>> >>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>> done. >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over
anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got yanked out). By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? Here's the picture: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg Mike Romain wrote: > That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid > is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the > starter is turning. > > You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then > starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > The Merg wrote: >> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >> >> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >> wiring problem? >> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >> carburetors, but that's another show. >> >> Carl S wrote: >>> So jealous..... >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>> neutral this time. >>>> >>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>> >>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>> done. >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over
anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got yanked out). By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? Here's the picture: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg Mike Romain wrote: > That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid > is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the > starter is turning. > > You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then > starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > The Merg wrote: >> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >> >> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >> wiring problem? >> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >> carburetors, but that's another show. >> >> Carl S wrote: >>> So jealous..... >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>> neutral this time. >>>> >>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>> >>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>> done. >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over
anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got yanked out). By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? Here's the picture: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg Mike Romain wrote: > That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter solenoid > is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil when the > starter is turning. > > You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then > starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > The Merg wrote: >> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >> >> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >> wiring problem? >> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >> carburetors, but that's another show. >> >> Carl S wrote: >>> So jealous..... >>> >>> Carl >>> >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>> neutral this time. >>>> >>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>> >>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>> done. >>>> >>> >>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Oops, I forgot to say the starter solenoid on those is on the fender,
you can clean it from up top easily. Are those bent parts in the image? Mike The Merg wrote: > Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over > anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared > to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got > yanked out). > > By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I > replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L > pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for > 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or > do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? > > Here's the picture: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter >> solenoid is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil >> when the starter is turning. >> >> You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then >> starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> The Merg wrote: >>> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >>> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >>> >>> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >>> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >>> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >>> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >>> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >>> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >>> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >>> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >>> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >>> wiring problem? >>> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >>> carburetors, but that's another show. >>> >>> Carl S wrote: >>>> So jealous..... >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>>> neutral this time. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>>> >>>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>>> done. >>>>> >>>> >>>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Oops, I forgot to say the starter solenoid on those is on the fender,
you can clean it from up top easily. Are those bent parts in the image? Mike The Merg wrote: > Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over > anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared > to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got > yanked out). > > By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I > replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L > pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for > 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or > do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? > > Here's the picture: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter >> solenoid is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil >> when the starter is turning. >> >> You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then >> starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> The Merg wrote: >>> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >>> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >>> >>> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >>> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >>> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >>> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >>> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >>> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >>> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >>> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >>> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >>> wiring problem? >>> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >>> carburetors, but that's another show. >>> >>> Carl S wrote: >>>> So jealous..... >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>>> neutral this time. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>>> >>>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>>> done. >>>>> >>>> >>>> |
Re: Brand new '89 YJ
Oops, I forgot to say the starter solenoid on those is on the fender,
you can clean it from up top easily. Are those bent parts in the image? Mike The Merg wrote: > Cool. I was planning on pulling the starter to clean it/look it over > anyway. The whole engine bay is incredibly dirty, especially compared > to how clean the body and frame is (aside from the rugs, which got > yanked out). > > By the way, I'm still having trouble with the XJ Tcase shift linkage. I > replaced the bushings, it shifts into 4H fine, but trying to get to 4L > pops the bushing out and screws everything up again. Is it possible for > 4L to be screwed up (e.g. the gearing) and still have 4H work fine? Or > do I probably just need to replace the linkage completely? > > Here's the picture: > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=IMG_0308.jpg > > > > Mike Romain wrote: >> That might mean the connection on the side post of the starter >> solenoid is loose or dirty. That side wire send power to the coil >> when the starter is turning. >> >> You can jumper the coil directly to the battery to see if it then >> starts. If it does, it won't stop until you unhook that jumper wire. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> The Merg wrote: >>> Hey guys, I haven't had a chance to do much reading on the 4.2L yet, >>> so I thought I'd ask you guys for a quick answer. >>> >>> We threw a battery in it, and voila, the starter does work, there's >>> just no spark. The plugs are ugly, but would probably spark if there >>> was any power to them. In the myriad trash that came out of this >>> thing was a new distributor cap and rotor, so we put them on. >>> I'm thinking it's the coil, but here's the situation: we put a timing >>> light on the wire that runs from the coil to the cap and it doesn't >>> have spark when the key is turned, but only when the key is released >>> from 'start' - then it has a quick spark, but that's it. >>> So - replace the coil? Or am I possibly looking at some ignition >>> wiring problem? >>> There are also a couple vacuum hoses disconnected and I'm clueless on >>> carburetors, but that's another show. >>> >>> Carl S wrote: >>>> So jealous..... >>>> >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1170474813.551448.46360@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com... >>>>> Picked it up today - don't worry, I was able to get the Tcase in >>>>> neutral this time. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the pictures: http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ >>>>> gmergner/89%20YJ/ >>>>> >>>>> Needs a starter, battery, and something's up with the clutch - and I'm >>>>> sure a whole lot of other things will present themselves before we're >>>>> done. >>>>> >>>> >>>> |
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