DougW

Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> Check the ground strap from the rear of the engine head to the firewall!
>
> I has a dead CPS thing and replaced it, got 20 feet.
>
> My mesh cable was rotten.

Seems sometime in the 92/93 run Jeep started using a ground cable
attached off the lower coil mounting bolt.

--
DougW

Old Crow

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:

>Thanks CRWLR, turned out to be 7/16.
>Just spent the worst ever time under a Jeep ever I had. A COLD Jeep at that.
>Took 3 extensions and working on my back, over my head and by braille.
>For all following this, the CPS didn't fix the no start problem. I'm
>watching the tow truck pulling away as we speak. Thank you everybody for the
>great help and assistance on this. I learned a lot, but not quite enough.
>I'll post the final outcome, if there is one.

$5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:

>Thanks CRWLR, turned out to be 7/16.
>Just spent the worst ever time under a Jeep ever I had. A COLD Jeep at that.
>Took 3 extensions and working on my back, over my head and by braille.
>For all following this, the CPS didn't fix the no start problem. I'm
>watching the tow truck pulling away as we speak. Thank you everybody for the
>great help and assistance on this. I learned a lot, but not quite enough.
>I'll post the final outcome, if there is one.

$5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote:

>Thanks CRWLR, turned out to be 7/16.
>Just spent the worst ever time under a Jeep ever I had. A COLD Jeep at that.
>Took 3 extensions and working on my back, over my head and by braille.
>For all following this, the CPS didn't fix the no start problem. I'm
>watching the tow truck pulling away as we speak. Thank you everybody for the
>great help and assistance on this. I learned a lot, but not quite enough.
>I'll post the final outcome, if there is one.

$5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

>Old Crow wrote:
>>
>> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
>> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
>> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.

Bill sez:
> What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
>http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>

If I remember, they wanted like $700 at the dealer. I found one at
the junkyard for $150.
I was skeptical(sp?), because the test flow chart in the FSM that I
borrowed was so simple. I could think of a lot of things in the
circuit you could test(and a GM SM would have had you check) besides
what the flow chart tested before wanting to replace the PCM.
I did all the other checks I wanted before buying the PCM, satisfying
my curiosity, I suppose. Then I went and got the PCM, bolted it in,
hooked it up and started the Jeep.
My wife said hardly anything about the $100 worth of sensors I bought
that didn't fix the problem ;-)
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

>Old Crow wrote:
>>
>> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
>> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
>> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.

Bill sez:
> What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
>http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>

If I remember, they wanted like $700 at the dealer. I found one at
the junkyard for $150.
I was skeptical(sp?), because the test flow chart in the FSM that I
borrowed was so simple. I could think of a lot of things in the
circuit you could test(and a GM SM would have had you check) besides
what the flow chart tested before wanting to replace the PCM.
I did all the other checks I wanted before buying the PCM, satisfying
my curiosity, I suppose. Then I went and got the PCM, bolted it in,
hooked it up and started the Jeep.
My wife said hardly anything about the $100 worth of sensors I bought
that didn't fix the problem ;-)
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

>Old Crow wrote:
>>
>> $5 says it's the PCM. Why D/C decided to put the ignition module
>> inside the PCM, I don't know, but after changing the CPS and the cam
>> sensor in the distributor, I ended up putting a PCM in my wife's '93.

Bill sez:
> What did the Powertrain Control Module cost you?
>http://www.----------.com/pcm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>

If I remember, they wanted like $700 at the dealer. I found one at
the junkyard for $150.
I was skeptical(sp?), because the test flow chart in the FSM that I
borrowed was so simple. I could think of a lot of things in the
circuit you could test(and a GM SM would have had you check) besides
what the flow chart tested before wanting to replace the PCM.
I did all the other checks I wanted before buying the PCM, satisfying
my curiosity, I suppose. Then I went and got the PCM, bolted it in,
hooked it up and started the Jeep.
My wife said hardly anything about the $100 worth of sensors I bought
that didn't fix the problem ;-)
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51