Blue smoke -- Help!!
01-09-2004, 08:13 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
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> How do you access the rings on a 258? Can you do this with the head off
or
> do you need to pull the engine?
>
> I don't have an air compressor. Oh, I think I see what you're saying.
> You're saying to pump compressed air into the spark plug hole to hold the
> valve in place. Otherwise it will fall down into the cylinder when it's
> unbolted.
>
> Bill
>
another 'shadetree' trick is to stuff a nylon rope into the sparkplug so as
to fill the cumbustion chamber completely. the valve will then have nowhere
to go when you are squeezing the spring...
it is easiest to pull the engine to replace the rings, but an adventurous
individual could attempt to do it from underneath - pull the oil pan and
crank and etc., etc., etc.
i have little money for many things and i have found it is much easier to
keep it simple. valve stem seals are much cheaper to replace than guides or
rings or other things. i am not saying it couldn't be the rings or guides
that are bad, i am just saying, try the valve stem seals. BUT, FIRST!
first check the PCV valve.
has this engine ever been overheated?
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
01-09-2004, 08:13 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
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> How do you access the rings on a 258? Can you do this with the head off
or
> do you need to pull the engine?
>
> I don't have an air compressor. Oh, I think I see what you're saying.
> You're saying to pump compressed air into the spark plug hole to hold the
> valve in place. Otherwise it will fall down into the cylinder when it's
> unbolted.
>
> Bill
>
another 'shadetree' trick is to stuff a nylon rope into the sparkplug so as
to fill the cumbustion chamber completely. the valve will then have nowhere
to go when you are squeezing the spring...
it is easiest to pull the engine to replace the rings, but an adventurous
individual could attempt to do it from underneath - pull the oil pan and
crank and etc., etc., etc.
i have little money for many things and i have found it is much easier to
keep it simple. valve stem seals are much cheaper to replace than guides or
rings or other things. i am not saying it couldn't be the rings or guides
that are bad, i am just saying, try the valve stem seals. BUT, FIRST!
first check the PCV valve.
has this engine ever been overheated?
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
01-09-2004, 11:31 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"bob zee" wrote in message:
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
01-09-2004, 11:31 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"bob zee" wrote in message:
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
01-09-2004, 11:31 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"bob zee" wrote in message:
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
> has this engine ever been overheated?
Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
Thanks,
Bill
01-09-2004, 12:13 PM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
Overheating cooks valve stem seals really fast.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-09-2004, 12:13 PM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
Overheating cooks valve stem seals really fast.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-09-2004, 12:13 PM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
Overheating cooks valve stem seals really fast.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> "bob zee" wrote in message:
> > has this engine ever been overheated?
>
> Funny you should ask that. Before I bought this jeep the previous owner had
> drivin it whiile the water ran out. He pulled over to let it cool and so he
> thought the cooling process would be faster if he poured water on the
> engine. NOT. So needless to say he cracked or warped something. So he
> took it to a shop near his house (he showed me all the receipts for this)
> and they repaired the engine by either replacing the block with a used block
> or head, I can't remember but I will look at the receipts when I get home.
> So what I have now is a mish mash of old and new.
>
> Why do you ask this question? What are you thinking?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-10-2004, 07:07 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Overheating cooks valve stem seals really fast.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
exactly!!!
8~)>
--
bob z.
2003 TombRaider Rubi
2004 Rubi - BLACK
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
01-10-2004, 07:07 AM
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Re: Blue smoke -- Help!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Overheating cooks valve stem seals really fast.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
exactly!!!
8~)>
--
bob z.
2003 TombRaider Rubi
2004 Rubi - BLACK
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©