BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
11-09-2005, 11:05 AM
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BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
the proportioning valve.
Yeah right like I have that tool.
Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
the proportioning valve.
Yeah right like I have that tool.
Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 11:52 AM
#3
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 11:52 AM
#4
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.
'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.
That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 12:40 PM
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 12:40 PM
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
11-09-2005, 12:40 PM
#7
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Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.
forever....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.