BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.

The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!

The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
the proportioning valve.

Yeah right like I have that tool.

Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.

'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.

That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.

'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.

That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

If you look at the prop' valve, you should see a pin under a rubber
cap. You can remove the cap and put a penny over the pin and hold it in
place with a C-clamp or hose clamp or I use needle nose vise grips to
hold it.

'Some' of them have a pin that is already way out and hs a notch on it.
The other tool fits in the notch so the pin doesn't go back in when the
pedal is pushed, but most I have seen have the pin that pops out with
the pedal.

That said, mine was still one miserable SOB to do. I ended up on it's
first trip the first day after a total rebuild in the bush with a pedal
feel I didn't like still so I opened up all 4 bleeders and gravity bled
the sucker for about a half hour and 1 liter of fluid. That worked.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

Oh, did you bench bleed the master first? If not, the foam will stay
forever....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jack-Jack wrote:
>
> Bleeding on my 86 cj w/ front disc & rear drums.
>
> The rear were no problem the fronts are just producing foam!
>
> The manual says I need a special tool to bypass the valve on the end of
> the proportioning valve.
>
> Yeah right like I have that tool.
>
> Help! Is there a quick replacement, am I doing this all wrong.

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

alright then I figured out the valve BUT while we get reasonable pedal
pressure with the engine off we start it and while the fronts grab real
well the pedal is still pure mush?

Any thoughts

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

alright then I figured out the valve BUT while we get reasonable pedal
pressure with the engine off we start it and while the fronts grab real
well the pedal is still pure mush?

Any thoughts

Re: BLEEDING HELP PLEASE Time is $$$$$$$
 

alright then I figured out the valve BUT while we get reasonable pedal
pressure with the engine off we start it and while the fronts grab real
well the pedal is still pure mush?

Any thoughts