Hah? What was that?

If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I
have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft
and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same
driveshaft. Could cause problems.

Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).

Eric
99 TJ SE
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
> transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
> the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
> from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
> do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>> difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around
>> the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive
>> isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear
>> that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>
>> Eric
>> "JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"
>>>
>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>
>>>(contradiction)
>>>
>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>
>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to
>>>me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

Hah? What was that?

If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I
have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft
and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same
driveshaft. Could cause problems.

Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).

Eric
99 TJ SE
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
> transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
> the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
> from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
> do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>> difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around
>> the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive
>> isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear
>> that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>
>> Eric
>> "JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"
>>>
>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>
>>>(contradiction)
>>>
>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>
>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to
>>>me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There
is no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
clearance. It buys you nothing.

Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS
and install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop
kit, you would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your
pinion, which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in
this application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny
difference in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause
vibrations. So yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous
example is correct.

"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the
ridiculous category.

Eric wrote:

> Hah? What was that?
>
> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I
> have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft
> and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same
> driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>
> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around
>>>the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive
>>>isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear
>>>that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"
>>>>
>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>
>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>
>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>
>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to
>>>>me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>
>>>>JimG
>>>>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There
is no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
clearance. It buys you nothing.

Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS
and install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop
kit, you would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your
pinion, which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in
this application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny
difference in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause
vibrations. So yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous
example is correct.

"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the
ridiculous category.

Eric wrote:

> Hah? What was that?
>
> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I
> have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft
> and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same
> driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>
> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around
>>>the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive
>>>isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear
>>>that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"
>>>>
>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>
>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>
>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>
>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to
>>>>me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>
>>>>JimG
>>>>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There
is no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
clearance. It buys you nothing.

Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS
and install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop
kit, you would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your
pinion, which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in
this application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny
difference in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause
vibrations. So yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous
example is correct.

"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the
ridiculous category.

Eric wrote:

> Hah? What was that?
>
> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example -- I
> have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV driveshaft
> and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the same
> driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>
> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive around
>>>the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short drive
>>>isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25. I hear
>>>that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the SYE?"
>>>>
>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>
>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>
>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>
>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks to
>>>>me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>
>>>>JimG
>>>>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

TW's comments were right on. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

TW's comments were right on. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

TW's comments were right on. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
again.

That was my point.....

Eric


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
again.

That was my point.....

Eric


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>