Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I can't see the angle, sorry.
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I can't see the angle, sorry.
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I can't see the angle, sorry.
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
What they mean is the rear pinion has to be pointing straight at the
driveshaft. You don't show the rear. The front one's angle doesn't
matter any more because of that CV.
Having the transfer skid lowered is a waste of space, literally. It
cuts down on the clearance for no reason.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
> > Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> > drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> > clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> > distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> > drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> > concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Guest
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"argued" was saying...
And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
installed):"
SHEESH!
Eric
;-)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>
> The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> attitude.
>
> JimG wrote:
>
>> Hi twaldron (and others),
>>
>> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>> one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>> have the CV shaft?
>> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>
>> JimG
>>
>> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>
>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Yes, but as a week passes some people actually DO go out in the garage
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Yes, but as a week passes some people actually DO go out in the garage
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Guest
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Yes, but as a week passes some people actually DO go out in the garage
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
Eric wrote:
> YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> "argued" was saying...
>
> And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> installed):"
>
> SHEESH!
>
> Eric
> ;-)
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
>>
>>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
>>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
>>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
>>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
>>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
>>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
>>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
>>attitude.
>>
>>JimG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi twaldron (and others),
>>>
>>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
>>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
>>>have the CV shaft?
>>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>>>
>>>JimG
>>>
>>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Guest
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Not yet, I saw today's photos.....
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Yes, but as a week passes some people actually DO go out in the garage
> and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
> MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> > "argued" was saying...
> >
> > And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> > installed):"
> >
> > SHEESH!
> >
> > Eric
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
> >>
> >>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> >>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> >>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> >>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> >>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> >>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> >>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> >>attitude.
> >>
> >>JimG wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi twaldron (and others),
> >>>
> >>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
> >>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
> >>>have the CV shaft?
> >>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> >>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
> >>>
> >>>JimG
> >>>
> >>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> >>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> >>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> >>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> >>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> >>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Yes, but as a week passes some people actually DO go out in the garage
> and get things accomplished. There ARE other things besides usenet. He
> MIGHT have actually removed it, as he should.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > YES, he has the drop kit installed... that's what the WHOLE thread we
> > "argued" was saying...
> >
> > And I quote: "See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still
> > installed):"
> >
> > SHEESH!
> >
> > Eric
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:HVvhd.4168$fC4.1129@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
> >>
> >>The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms. :)
> >>I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control arms or
> >>not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming you do
> >>since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem too far
> >>off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion directly at
> >>the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is your drop kit
> >>still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to be at a correct
> >>attitude.
> >>
> >>JimG wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi twaldron (and others),
> >>>
> >>>The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose
> >>>one adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I
> >>>have the CV shaft?
> >>>See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> >>>http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
> >>>
> >>>JimG
> >>>
> >>>"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> >>>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> >>>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> >>>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> >>>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> >>>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________