Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

So you're doing 65 in a 60 when the guy next to you sideswipes you
into the ditch. Want to guess who's fault it is?

Perhaps you'll like paying taxes based on the miles you drive? Or the
roads you drive on?

This is only the start and already we're not being informed of the
extent of the monitoring underway. It's only going to become more and
more obtrusive.



On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:22:16 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>This just proves that someone involved in the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"
>was able to either alter the black box data after the fact.
>
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:nkaso298abli2rdg96hmdtf3di82ajqcb7@4ax.com.. .
>> "The "black box" recorded that the SUV was traveling at 71 mph about
>> five seconds before its airbags deployed. Trask told investigators
>> that his speedometer showed 55 mph before he began passing the car."
>>
>> http://www.motorists.com/issues/edrs/mainegovernor.html
>>
>>
>> Can you afford the attorney fees necessary to protect yourself?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:06:55 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 23 Dec 2006 10:48:00 -0800, "doylexus@yahoo.com"
>>><doylexus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am wondering if a 2000 wrangler or 1996 Cherokee would have them (and
>>>>whether they can be turned off). Just read a story saying that the
>>>>auto's manual won't tell you if you have them, but that basically any
>>>>car with an airbag does have them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>



-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

So you're doing 65 in a 60 when the guy next to you sideswipes you
into the ditch. Want to guess who's fault it is?

Perhaps you'll like paying taxes based on the miles you drive? Or the
roads you drive on?

This is only the start and already we're not being informed of the
extent of the monitoring underway. It's only going to become more and
more obtrusive.



On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:22:16 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>This just proves that someone involved in the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"
>was able to either alter the black box data after the fact.
>
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:nkaso298abli2rdg96hmdtf3di82ajqcb7@4ax.com.. .
>> "The "black box" recorded that the SUV was traveling at 71 mph about
>> five seconds before its airbags deployed. Trask told investigators
>> that his speedometer showed 55 mph before he began passing the car."
>>
>> http://www.motorists.com/issues/edrs/mainegovernor.html
>>
>>
>> Can you afford the attorney fees necessary to protect yourself?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:06:55 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 23 Dec 2006 10:48:00 -0800, "doylexus@yahoo.com"
>>><doylexus@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am wondering if a 2000 wrangler or 1996 Cherokee would have them (and
>>>>whether they can be turned off). Just read a story saying that the
>>>>auto's manual won't tell you if you have them, but that basically any
>>>>car with an airbag does have them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>



-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now used
are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black box"
is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
limitations on everybody's life.

Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
imagine at this time.

For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that both
of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already happening
and will happen in the near future.

Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20 or
30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be before
smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?

Tom

> >bllsht wrote:
> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> >>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now used
are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black box"
is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
limitations on everybody's life.

Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
imagine at this time.

For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that both
of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already happening
and will happen in the near future.

Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20 or
30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be before
smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?

Tom

> >bllsht wrote:
> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> >>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now used
are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black box"
is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
limitations on everybody's life.

Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
imagine at this time.

For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that both
of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already happening
and will happen in the near future.

Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20 or
30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be before
smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?

Tom

> >bllsht wrote:
> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> >>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a cigaret.
Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some citizens
prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
smoking in their vehicles?

Earle

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> > >>
>
>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a cigaret.
Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some citizens
prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
smoking in their vehicles?

Earle

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> > >>
>
>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a cigaret.
Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some citizens
prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
smoking in their vehicles?

Earle

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
> > >bllsht wrote:
> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
> > >>
>
>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
> citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
> used
>> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
> box"
>> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
>> limitations on everybody's life.
>>
>> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I
>> drive
>> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
>> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
>> imagine at this time.
>>
>> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
>> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
> both
>> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
> happening
>> and will happen in the near future.
>>
>> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and
>> limitations
>> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
> or
>> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used
>> in
>> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
> before
>> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not
>> allow
>> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> > >bllsht wrote:
>> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> > >>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 

Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
> citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
> used
>> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
> box"
>> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
>> limitations on everybody's life.
>>
>> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I
>> drive
>> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
>> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
>> imagine at this time.
>>
>> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
>> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
> both
>> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
> happening
>> and will happen in the near future.
>>
>> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and
>> limitations
>> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
> or
>> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used
>> in
>> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
> before
>> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not
>> allow
>> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> > >bllsht wrote:
>> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> > >>
>>
>>
>
>