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billy ray 12-25-2006 11:55 AM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
> citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>
> "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now

> used
>> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black

> box"
>> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
>> limitations on everybody's life.
>>
>> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I
>> drive
>> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
>> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
>> imagine at this time.
>>
>> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
>> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that

> both
>> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already

> happening
>> and will happen in the near future.
>>
>> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and
>> limitations
>> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20

> or
>> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used
>> in
>> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be

> before
>> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not
>> allow
>> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> > >bllsht wrote:
>> > >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> > >>

>>
>>

>
>




DougW 12-25-2006 12:07 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
billy ray wrote:
> Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.


Just move the gas tank back inside the cabin. :)

> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>> cigaret.
>> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
>> citizens
>> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them
>> from smoking in their vehicles?




DougW 12-25-2006 12:07 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
billy ray wrote:
> Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.


Just move the gas tank back inside the cabin. :)

> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>> cigaret.
>> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
>> citizens
>> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them
>> from smoking in their vehicles?




DougW 12-25-2006 12:07 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
billy ray wrote:
> Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.


Just move the gas tank back inside the cabin. :)

> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a
>> cigaret.
>> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some
>> citizens
>> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them
>> from smoking in their vehicles?




mabar 12-25-2006 10:28 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Earl:

I'm not advocating tobacco smoke detectors, or any other kind of smoke
detectors. I'm just saying that the information "black boxes" of today
contain, and ways they are now being used are just the beginning of
ever-increasing controls, regulations, limitations of personal freedoms and
possible taxations on all of our lives.

Tom

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a

cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some

citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>




mabar 12-25-2006 10:28 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Earl:

I'm not advocating tobacco smoke detectors, or any other kind of smoke
detectors. I'm just saying that the information "black boxes" of today
contain, and ways they are now being used are just the beginning of
ever-increasing controls, regulations, limitations of personal freedoms and
possible taxations on all of our lives.

Tom

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a

cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some

citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>




mabar 12-25-2006 10:28 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Earl:

I'm not advocating tobacco smoke detectors, or any other kind of smoke
detectors. I'm just saying that the information "black boxes" of today
contain, and ways they are now being used are just the beginning of
ever-increasing controls, regulations, limitations of personal freedoms and
possible taxations on all of our lives.

Tom

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:459001b7$0$3509$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a

cigaret.
> Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some

citizens
> prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from
> smoking in their vehicles?
>
> Earle
>




Clint 12-27-2006 04:04 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Foolish question, but why shouldn't you pay extra taxes for the miles you
drive (to pay your share of the road repairs), when compared to someone who
doesn't drive as many miles? Why shouldn't you be charged/convicted based
on your actions in a collision, rather than relying on your perhaps
faulty/dishonest recollection of split second timing months later?

Clint

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
> used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
> box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
> both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
> happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
> or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
> before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
>> >bllsht wrote:
>> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> >>

>
>



Clint 12-27-2006 04:04 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Foolish question, but why shouldn't you pay extra taxes for the miles you
drive (to pay your share of the road repairs), when compared to someone who
doesn't drive as many miles? Why shouldn't you be charged/convicted based
on your actions in a collision, rather than relying on your perhaps
faulty/dishonest recollection of split second timing months later?

Clint

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
> used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
> box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
> both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
> happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
> or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
> before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
>> >bllsht wrote:
>> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> >>

>
>



Clint 12-27-2006 04:04 PM

Re: ?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.
 
Foolish question, but why shouldn't you pay extra taxes for the miles you
drive (to pay your share of the road repairs), when compared to someone who
doesn't drive as many miles? Why shouldn't you be charged/convicted based
on your actions in a collision, rather than relying on your perhaps
faulty/dishonest recollection of split second timing months later?

Clint

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:458fb832_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now
> used
> are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black
> box"
> is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and
> limitations on everybody's life.
>
> Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive
> on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other
> limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to
> imagine at this time.
>
> For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George
> Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that
> both
> of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already
> happening
> and will happen in the near future.
>
> Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations
> on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20
> or
> 30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in
> the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be
> before
> smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow
> your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?
>
> Tom
>
>> >bllsht wrote:
>> >> Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.
>> >>

>
>




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