BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
06-09-2004, 09:10 AM
#2
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
Hi Jeff,
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 09:10 AM
#3
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
Hi Jeff,
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 09:10 AM
#4
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Posts: n/a
Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
Hi Jeff,
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 09:10 AM
#5
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Posts: n/a
Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
Hi Jeff,
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
I have 33x10.50R15 BFG MT with 4.10 gears on a daily driver. My RPM are
2320 @ 70 mph in 5th (0.79 ratio). Assuming you have the same
transmission, yours will be about 2475 RPM ((70*4.10*0.79*336)/30.8) -
still fine for the 4.0L.
These were my first MTs and when I got them I was prepared for huge
noise. I can hear a difference (they really growl when slowing to a
stop) but overall I hardly notice them.
I heard tales of these tires wearing quickly. After 8 months (with
regular rotation and careful attention to tire pressure) it looks like
I'm going to exceed the manufacturer's tread life spec.
I was also worried about warnings of hydroplaning. I've since driven in
torrential downpours and have had zero traction or handling issues.
They work great in the mud for a street tire, but can clog up if it gets
really thick and slimy (clay).
I like how they pull in really deep snow.
Handling and traction is noticeably reduced at speed on snow/slush
covered roads as compared to a proper snow tire. Not a major issue, I
simply drive a little slower than I would with Nokians or Blizzaks.
Traction on slick rock and wet asphalt can be significantly improved by
siping the lugs:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...reSiping.shtml
Steve
Handywired wrote:
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 10:07 AM
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
BFG's all the way!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 10:07 AM
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
BFG's all the way!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 10:07 AM
#8
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
BFG's all the way!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 10:07 AM
#9
Guest
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
BFG's all the way!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Size will most likely be 31's, vehicle is a '97 TJ 4.0L. Gearing 4.10. I want
> an aggressive tire that wears well on-road, is not obnoxiously noisy, and works
> great in slick mud and wet snow. Which is better?
>
> -jeff
06-09-2004, 01:09 PM
#10
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Re: BFG MT's vs. Goodyear MT/R's
If you are not offroading do not spend your money on a mud tire. The
BFG mts are great, I am running them but check the specs on the
website. The tire is not ment for snow. In the winter I run a
differents sent. Also Mud tires can make alot more noise.
If you live in Canada, I would go for the Canadain tire Roughrider,
M+S. This tire comes in 31 and this is what I use in the winter.
They are great tires and usually go on sale.
The Goodyear MT/Rs are expensive but you pay for what you get. If you
have not built up your jeep you could go for the 31 BFG ATs. Once you
build it up then you can put on the 33 muds. (Plus the lift, slip
yoke, wider flares, regear .... $$$ ching ching!)
BFG mts are great, I am running them but check the specs on the
website. The tire is not ment for snow. In the winter I run a
differents sent. Also Mud tires can make alot more noise.
If you live in Canada, I would go for the Canadain tire Roughrider,
M+S. This tire comes in 31 and this is what I use in the winter.
They are great tires and usually go on sale.
The Goodyear MT/Rs are expensive but you pay for what you get. If you
have not built up your jeep you could go for the 31 BFG ATs. Once you
build it up then you can put on the 33 muds. (Plus the lift, slip
yoke, wider flares, regear .... $$$ ching ching!)