Rusted

Sounds like we are on the same page. We are all here for a common topic and
not to beat each other up. I apologize if my first post came across brash.
This is now off topic, and not helping you find a top you want. But both
the black jeep with purple top and the yellow jeep with the gray top both
appear to be a 87-91 wrangler YJ's. On both you can see the side hinged
tailgate, and the continuous flare/running board that was common with the
YJ's from those years. I am sure you will see square headlights on both of
them. Starting in 92 until 95 the YJ's had the extended rear sports bar.
I still don't see a photo of a CJ on their site anywhere. Below are links
to references.

As far as fit between the CJ's and the 87-91 YJ's the tops should all fit
the same. The 92-95 YJ's the sport bar starts at a little different
position, so my guess is that it would require a different top to get a
proper placement. I think that Bestop does a better job at clarifying that
their tops are for 92-95 TJ's, and SlickTops should clarify that there is a
split in the YJ's. I guess they should also PRODUCE a top for a CJ/Older YJ
since they advertise that they have one.

http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/identifying_jeep.asp
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php




"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
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> When you asked the question, you sounded like somebody who was
> answering their own question. If I were talking to you in person, it
> would be a lot easier to communicate. The web page you listed does
> show two pictures of CJ-7's with a halftop. You may not have
> recognized them, but the most obvious difference is the roll bar. The
> CJ does not have a "cage". It's just a roll bar with a brace behind
> it. The page you listed shows a black CJ-7 with half-doors and a
> purple halftop. It also shows a yellow CJ-7 with full steel doors and
> a grey halftop. My Jeep has the steel doors, so I can get a pretty
> good look at how the top would fit if in fact any of them ever got
> delivered. On the order page you would specify that you owned a CJ
> and they would presumably build one to fit that model. But they
> won't.
>
> I understand your question better now than the first time you asked
> it, and I'm sorry I was pedantic before. However, If you go back and
> read your original question again, maybe you can see why I was
> frustrated in my response.
>
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:36:13 -0600, "Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>>Did I sound like a ***** when I asked the question? Because you came off
>>as a ***** with your answer. The Internet etiquette is interesting, you
>>would never say that to me in person, especially when I am spending my
>>time
>>trying to answer your questions. No need to get upset with me for slick
>>tops poor website and poor customer service. Lighten up just a little.
>>
>>Yeah make sure you type slow so we can all be on the same speed here. I
>>ask because the bolded all caps description on
>>http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php specifies a "'04 -'97". Is
>>there
>>a page on their site that specifies information for the CJ's and YJ's?
>>They don't even show a picture that I can find of a CJ with a half top, my
>>assumption is that since it fits the black and the yellow YJ, then it
>>would
>>also fit a CJ, but wouldn't you like to deal with a company that gave more
>>specifics or even a photo of a CJ fit? The only indication I see is that
>>they display a price, and on the order form you can pick a YJ/CJ option.
>>Seems to me like they are vague on their CJ info.
>>
>>
>>"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:462ub1199l3nt0v8t2c9876epegas951dp@4ax.com. ..
>>> I'll try to make this as simple as possible. Please read ALL the
>>> words.
>>>
>>> A CJ-7 is not a Wrangler.
>>> It's not a YJ. It's not a TJ.
>>> It's a CJ-7. A top for a Wrangler won't fit a CJ-7.
>>>
>>> ........Am I going too fast?
>>>
>>> If you look at the Bestop site, you won't find a halftop for CJ-7's.
>>> If you look at the Slick Tops site, you will find a halftop for
>>> CJ-7's.
>>>
>>> "Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does."
>>> I don't know how I can be any clearer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:47:03 -0600, "Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does.."
>>>>
>>>>Educate me, what is it that slick makes that Bestop doesn't?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bestop.com/index.php?s=7
>>>>
>>>>They look like clones to me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:jpetb1dt57mg0a4fs94p5kbgdj17sjjaj4@4ax.co m...
>>>>> Price is not the issue, and it's not about "cutting corners". Bestop
>>>>> doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does (or claims they
>>>>> do). Slick Tops appears to have some pretty cool designs, but the
>>>>> picture on their website is as close as you'll ever get to one.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:54:40 GMT, "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I know you have a CJ but I would imagin there would not be a large
>>>>>>price
>>>>>>diff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:evpve.2390$W74.1378@newssvr30.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>> That is why Jeepers that know there product only use Bestop....
>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>> they are also the Manufacturer for the Originals anyway. Thanks
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> info though. Sometimes we try to cut corners and sometimes it is
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> there are areas that you just do not cut and the top is one of them.
>>>>>>> Bestop is the best for appearance durability and reliability. for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> TJ's
>>>>>>> a raplacment top runs about $500.00 and if you watch 4 wheel parts
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> catch a sale and save another $25 or so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4q3sb11qhbsied8fa377mfq3kg99c2oj7h@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>I feel the need to share my bad experience with Slick Tops (also
>>>>>>>> called California Tops). I bought a halftop for my 1984 CJ-7 from
>>>>>>>> their website in April '05 for about $520. The problem is that
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> never delivered it. I got a lot of empty promises from them and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> told me again and again that it was almost ready to ship. Ten
>>>>>>>> weeks
>>>>>>>> later I still have nothing. They would not deliver the top and
>>>>>>>> refused to refund my money. Fortunately, I paid with VISA. I
>>>>>>>> notified VISA before 60 days had passed and VISA worked with me and
>>>>>>>> has refunded my money.
>>>>>>>> Slick Tops may be going under and can't fill their orders. I would
>>>>>>>> advise anyone tempted to buy from them to spend your money
>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Roadie

In article <d9nk60$i0n$1@reader1.panix.com>, Lee Ayrton
<layrton@panix.com> wrote:

> Ruel Smith wrote:
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> >
> >>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> >>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> >>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> >>spine.
> >
> >
> > I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> > quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> > not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> > Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
> > I
> > spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
> > the
> > seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> > but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> > over the years.
>
> My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
> southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
> wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
> other stuff is usually so well built.

Have you guys looked into the MasterCraft seats. I have 6 years on mine
and they still look and feel like the day they were new. Much higher
quality then factory!

Roadie

In article <d9nk60$i0n$1@reader1.panix.com>, Lee Ayrton
<layrton@panix.com> wrote:

> Ruel Smith wrote:
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> >
> >>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> >>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> >>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> >>spine.
> >
> >
> > I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> > quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> > not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> > Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
> > I
> > spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
> > the
> > seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> > but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> > over the years.
>
> My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
> southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
> wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
> other stuff is usually so well built.

Have you guys looked into the MasterCraft seats. I have 6 years on mine
and they still look and feel like the day they were new. Much higher
quality then factory!

Roadie

In article <d9nk60$i0n$1@reader1.panix.com>, Lee Ayrton
<layrton@panix.com> wrote:

> Ruel Smith wrote:
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> >
> >>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> >>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> >>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> >>spine.
> >
> >
> > I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> > quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> > not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> > Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
> > I
> > spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
> > the
> > seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> > but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> > over the years.
>
> My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
> southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
> wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
> other stuff is usually so well built.

Have you guys looked into the MasterCraft seats. I have 6 years on mine
and they still look and feel like the day they were new. Much higher
quality then factory!

Roadie

In article <d9nk60$i0n$1@reader1.panix.com>, Lee Ayrton
<layrton@panix.com> wrote:

> Ruel Smith wrote:
> > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> >
> >>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> >>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> >>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> >>spine.
> >
> >
> > I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> > quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> > not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> > Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
> > I
> > spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
> > the
> > seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> > but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> > over the years.
>
> My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
> southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
> wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
> other stuff is usually so well built.

Have you guys looked into the MasterCraft seats. I have 6 years on mine
and they still look and feel like the day they were new. Much higher
quality then factory!

Nat Man

Speaing of SmittyBuilt, does anyone onb here have any experience with their
soft tops? I'm lookign at them for my wrangler but was wonderign about the
quality.

Nat Man


"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> > Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> > low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> > back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> > spine.
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
>
>

Nat Man

Speaing of SmittyBuilt, does anyone onb here have any experience with their
soft tops? I'm lookign at them for my wrangler but was wonderign about the
quality.

Nat Man


"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:cf0c4$42bf1011$4275e0e2$10411@FUSE.NET...
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> > Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> > low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> > back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> > spine.
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
>
>

Nat Man

Speaing of SmittyBuilt, does anyone onb here have any experience with their
soft tops? I'm lookign at them for my wrangler but was wonderign about the
quality.

Nat Man


"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:cf0c4$42bf1011$4275e0e2$10411@FUSE.NET...
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> > Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> > low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> > back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> > spine.
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
>
>

Nat Man

Speaing of SmittyBuilt, does anyone onb here have any experience with their
soft tops? I'm lookign at them for my wrangler but was wonderign about the
quality.

Nat Man


"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:cf0c4$42bf1011$4275e0e2$10411@FUSE.NET...
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
> > Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
> > low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
> > back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
> > spine.
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily.
I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
>
>

extremetjs

If you are replacing a top for a Wrangler the only one to use is a Bestop.
They are the manufacturer for the OEM top as well.

Larry



"Nat Man" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> Speaing of SmittyBuilt, does anyone onb here have any experience with
> their
> soft tops? I'm lookign at them for my wrangler but was wonderign about
> the
> quality.
>
> Nat Man
>
>
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:cf0c4$42bf1011$4275e0e2$10411@FUSE.NET...
>>
>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>> > Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>> > low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>> > back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>> > spine.
>>
>> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the
>> good
>> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far.
>> It's
>> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
>> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly
>> easily.
> I
>> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in
> the
>> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
>> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of
>> them
>> over the years.
>>
>>
>
>