BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
06-26-2005, 08:36 PM
#41
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Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
Did I sound like a ***** when I asked the question? Because you came off
as a ***** with your answer. The Internet etiquette is interesting, you
would never say that to me in person, especially when I am spending my time
trying to answer your questions. No need to get upset with me for slick
tops poor website and poor customer service. Lighten up just a little.
Yeah make sure you type slow so we can all be on the same speed here. I
ask because the bolded all caps description on
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php specifies a "'04 -'97". Is there
a page on their site that specifies information for the CJ's and YJ's?
They don't even show a picture that I can find of a CJ with a half top, my
assumption is that since it fits the black and the yellow YJ, then it would
also fit a CJ, but wouldn't you like to deal with a company that gave more
specifics or even a photo of a CJ fit? The only indication I see is that
they display a price, and on the order form you can pick a YJ/CJ option.
Seems to me like they are vague on their CJ info.
"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
news:462ub1199l3nt0v8t2c9876epegas951dp@4ax.com...
> I'll try to make this as simple as possible. Please read ALL the
> words.
>
> A CJ-7 is not a Wrangler.
> It's not a YJ. It's not a TJ.
> It's a CJ-7. A top for a Wrangler won't fit a CJ-7.
>
> ........Am I going too fast?
>
> If you look at the Bestop site, you won't find a halftop for CJ-7's.
> If you look at the Slick Tops site, you will find a halftop for
> CJ-7's.
>
> "Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does."
> I don't know how I can be any clearer.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:47:03 -0600, "Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does.."
>>
>>Educate me, what is it that slick makes that Bestop doesn't?
>>
>>http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>>
>>http://www.bestop.com/index.php?s=7
>>
>>They look like clones to me
>>
>>
>>"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:jpetb1dt57mg0a4fs94p5kbgdj17sjjaj4@4ax.com. ..
>>> Price is not the issue, and it's not about "cutting corners". Bestop
>>> doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does (or claims they
>>> do). Slick Tops appears to have some pretty cool designs, but the
>>> picture on their website is as close as you'll ever get to one.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:54:40 GMT, "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know you have a CJ but I would imagin there would not be a large price
>>>>diff.
>>>>
>>>>Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:evpve.2390$W74.1378@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
>>>>> That is why Jeepers that know there product only use Bestop....
>>>>> Since
>>>>> they are also the Manufacturer for the Originals anyway. Thanks for
>>>>> the
>>>>> info though. Sometimes we try to cut corners and sometimes it is good
>>>>> but
>>>>> there are areas that you just do not cut and the top is one of them.
>>>>> Bestop is the best for appearance durability and reliability. for the
>>>>> TJ's
>>>>> a raplacment top runs about $500.00 and if you watch 4 wheel parts you
>>>>> can
>>>>> catch a sale and save another $25 or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4q3sb11qhbsied8fa377mfq3kg99c2oj7h@4ax.com...
>>>>>>I feel the need to share my bad experience with Slick Tops (also
>>>>>> called California Tops). I bought a halftop for my 1984 CJ-7 from
>>>>>> their website in April '05 for about $520. The problem is that they
>>>>>> never delivered it. I got a lot of empty promises from them and they
>>>>>> told me again and again that it was almost ready to ship. Ten weeks
>>>>>> later I still have nothing. They would not deliver the top and
>>>>>> refused to refund my money. Fortunately, I paid with VISA. I
>>>>>> notified VISA before 60 days had passed and VISA worked with me and
>>>>>> has refunded my money.
>>>>>> Slick Tops may be going under and can't fill their orders. I would
>>>>>> advise anyone tempted to buy from them to spend your money elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
as a ***** with your answer. The Internet etiquette is interesting, you
would never say that to me in person, especially when I am spending my time
trying to answer your questions. No need to get upset with me for slick
tops poor website and poor customer service. Lighten up just a little.
Yeah make sure you type slow so we can all be on the same speed here. I
ask because the bolded all caps description on
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php specifies a "'04 -'97". Is there
a page on their site that specifies information for the CJ's and YJ's?
They don't even show a picture that I can find of a CJ with a half top, my
assumption is that since it fits the black and the yellow YJ, then it would
also fit a CJ, but wouldn't you like to deal with a company that gave more
specifics or even a photo of a CJ fit? The only indication I see is that
they display a price, and on the order form you can pick a YJ/CJ option.
Seems to me like they are vague on their CJ info.
"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
news:462ub1199l3nt0v8t2c9876epegas951dp@4ax.com...
> I'll try to make this as simple as possible. Please read ALL the
> words.
>
> A CJ-7 is not a Wrangler.
> It's not a YJ. It's not a TJ.
> It's a CJ-7. A top for a Wrangler won't fit a CJ-7.
>
> ........Am I going too fast?
>
> If you look at the Bestop site, you won't find a halftop for CJ-7's.
> If you look at the Slick Tops site, you will find a halftop for
> CJ-7's.
>
> "Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does."
> I don't know how I can be any clearer.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:47:03 -0600, "Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bestop doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does.."
>>
>>Educate me, what is it that slick makes that Bestop doesn't?
>>
>>http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>>
>>http://www.bestop.com/index.php?s=7
>>
>>They look like clones to me
>>
>>
>>"mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:jpetb1dt57mg0a4fs94p5kbgdj17sjjaj4@4ax.com. ..
>>> Price is not the issue, and it's not about "cutting corners". Bestop
>>> doesn't make a halftop for a CJ-7. Slick Tops does (or claims they
>>> do). Slick Tops appears to have some pretty cool designs, but the
>>> picture on their website is as close as you'll ever get to one.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:54:40 GMT, "extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know you have a CJ but I would imagin there would not be a large price
>>>>diff.
>>>>
>>>>Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"extremetjs" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:evpve.2390$W74.1378@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
>>>>> That is why Jeepers that know there product only use Bestop....
>>>>> Since
>>>>> they are also the Manufacturer for the Originals anyway. Thanks for
>>>>> the
>>>>> info though. Sometimes we try to cut corners and sometimes it is good
>>>>> but
>>>>> there are areas that you just do not cut and the top is one of them.
>>>>> Bestop is the best for appearance durability and reliability. for the
>>>>> TJ's
>>>>> a raplacment top runs about $500.00 and if you watch 4 wheel parts you
>>>>> can
>>>>> catch a sale and save another $25 or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "mouseranch" <mouseranch@earthnospamlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4q3sb11qhbsied8fa377mfq3kg99c2oj7h@4ax.com...
>>>>>>I feel the need to share my bad experience with Slick Tops (also
>>>>>> called California Tops). I bought a halftop for my 1984 CJ-7 from
>>>>>> their website in April '05 for about $520. The problem is that they
>>>>>> never delivered it. I got a lot of empty promises from them and they
>>>>>> told me again and again that it was almost ready to ship. Ten weeks
>>>>>> later I still have nothing. They would not deliver the top and
>>>>>> refused to refund my money. Fortunately, I paid with VISA. I
>>>>>> notified VISA before 60 days had passed and VISA worked with me and
>>>>>> has refunded my money.
>>>>>> Slick Tops may be going under and can't fill their orders. I would
>>>>>> advise anyone tempted to buy from them to spend your money elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
06-26-2005, 09:24 PM
#42
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Re: Bestop replacement seats WAS: BEWARE of Slick Tops/CaliforniaTops
Ruel Smith wrote:
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
06-26-2005, 09:24 PM
#43
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Re: Bestop replacement seats WAS: BEWARE of Slick Tops/CaliforniaTops
Ruel Smith wrote:
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
06-26-2005, 09:24 PM
#44
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Re: Bestop replacement seats WAS: BEWARE of Slick Tops/CaliforniaTops
Ruel Smith wrote:
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
06-26-2005, 09:24 PM
#45
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Re: Bestop replacement seats WAS: BEWARE of Slick Tops/CaliforniaTops
Ruel Smith wrote:
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mr07$6vf$2@reader1.panix.com...
>
>>Has anyone had problems with Bestop low-back seats? My replacement
>>low-backs are less than two years old and all the stuffing in the seat
>>back is heading south. Leaning back I get the metal seat frame in my
>>spine.
>
>
> I wish I would have bought Bestop when I got my seats. Bestop has the good
> quality, judging from the products that I've bought from them so far. It's
> not quite OEM quality, but it's tons cheaper. I bought the, then, Steel
> Horse seats, which are now sold by Smittybuilt. They ripped fairly easily. I
> spent over $800 replacing my seats 2 years ago and now they're ripped in the
> seams in a couple of places. I'd suggest you buy Bestop. I've got nothing
> but good things to say about their products, and I've bought a few of them
> over the years.
My replacement seats _are_ Bestops, and the stuffing is sagging
southward aften less than two years and minimal road miles. I was
wondering if anyone else had had a problem with these seats since their
other stuff is usually so well built.
06-26-2005, 10:15 PM
#46
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Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
> Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
06-26-2005, 10:15 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
> Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
06-26-2005, 10:15 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
> Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
06-26-2005, 10:15 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
> Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
for yourself:
http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
06-26-2005, 10:34 PM
#50
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Re: BEWARE of Slick Tops/California Tops
I've been reading/hearing nearly nothing but complaints on California
Tops for at least 6-7 years.
Ruel Smith wrote:
>>Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>>
>>http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
>
>
> Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
> less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
> truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
> the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
> for yourself:
>
> http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Tops for at least 6-7 years.
Ruel Smith wrote:
>>Check this out.... It is from Quadratec..
>>
>>http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...UREQB=2&FNM=00
>
>
> Ben, this is a bikini top, and not a half top. A half top is an actual top,
> less the back section - almost like turning your Wrangler/CJ into a small
> truck. It actually closes in the front passenger compartment only, much like
> the soft tops on the Scramblers. Take a good look at these pictures and see
> for yourself:
>
> http://www.slicktops.com/tops_halftop.php
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/