Best choice for replacement lifters
05-26-2004, 09:14 PM
#1
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Best choice for replacement lifters
I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
changing oil.
Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
Aloha
Joe in Maui
replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
changing oil.
Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
Aloha
Joe in Maui
05-26-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
Almost all lifters are made my a company called Johnson Tappet. They are
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
05-26-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
Almost all lifters are made my a company called Johnson Tappet. They are
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
05-26-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
Almost all lifters are made my a company called Johnson Tappet. They are
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
05-26-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
Almost all lifters are made my a company called Johnson Tappet. They are
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
simply relabeled for each company that sells them. Elgin, I am not sure
about, but they may be imports. The Johnson number I believe you need for
your engine is HT2011. Most of the companies that use the Johnson lifters
keep most or all of the part number intact when they label them with their
own numbers. Even the "generic" Summit lifters are made my Johnson Tappet,
as are ,Speed-Pro, Melling, TRW, Crane, Federal-Mogul, etc.
Chris
"Joe" <mauijoe@maui.net> wrote in message news:40B541D1.702@maui.net...
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
05-29-2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
05-29-2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
05-29-2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
05-29-2004, 12:11 AM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
camshaft.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Joe wrote:
>
> I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> changing oil.
>
> Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a 258?
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
05-30-2004, 06:08 AM
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Re: Best choice for replacement lifters
Have you tried Sea Foam in your motor oil. I would do as bill has
recommended and add some Sea Foam to the oil about a 100 miles before you
change it. I use it a lot on the Big diesel truck engines when I service
them on my job. It's the best cleaner I have found to date. And it does all
that it says,which is pretty darn good. A lot of products lay down a lot of
claims but this one works.
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B80D8B.5AA5A89F@***.net...
> I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
> thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
> times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
> than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
> special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
> thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
> camshaft.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> > replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> > before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> > I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> > but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> > but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> > changing oil.
> >
> > Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> > experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> > even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a
258?
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui
recommended and add some Sea Foam to the oil about a 100 miles before you
change it. I use it a lot on the Big diesel truck engines when I service
them on my job. It's the best cleaner I have found to date. And it does all
that it says,which is pretty darn good. A lot of products lay down a lot of
claims but this one works.
--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B80D8B.5AA5A89F@***.net...
> I would give the oil changing more chances, like changing every
> thousand miles with filter and top quality 10W-30 oil, four or five
> times, or until they're picked up. If you choose to chance the lifters,
> than know what you're getting into. Have them well lubricated in their
> special graphite grease, and run at a constant two grand for the first
> thirty minutes, then flip a coin for your chances of not eating a
> camshaft.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I give up! I am going to replace the lifters in my 1990 YJ 258. I am
> > replacing due to a clacking noise on start up which is lasting longer
> > before it goes away and now sometimes reappears (although much quieter).
> > I have tried all the cleaners and some seem to help a bit for a while,
> > but then it gets worse again. YJ has 60k miles. I got it with 48k miles,
> > but I suspect that previous owner had not been to religious about
> > changing oil.
> >
> > Any preference for lifter brand? JC whitney has Elgin brand. Good or bad
> > experiences with these or other brand names? Also is it possible or
> > even worth trying to change the lifters without pulling the head on a
258?
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui