philthy

49 degrees in michigan in the am and went up 54 then drop off once nite fall
came

*Rick* wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:32 -0500, billy ray wrote:
>
> Don't care if I never see another snow shovel. Lived in Ohio for 34 yrs.
> and now live in Florida. Current temp. is 67 degrees F, wind 9mph ENE
> under clear skies.
> Not a bad day to get this taken care of.
>
> I know, there goes the sympathy. :-) If it makes you feel better, I would
> rather be fishing.
>
> Rick
>
> > You can just leave the battery cable disconnected until the weather
> > clears/heath improves, no sense laying in the snow if you don't need to.
> >
> >
> > "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:0LQzf.18296$sq.4928@trnddc01...
> >> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:40:44 +0000, DougB wrote:
> >>
> >> No light fixture under the hood on my model.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the thought. Still open to suggestions!
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>> Could be the under hood light if you have one fitted.Lift hood touch
> >>> bulb,
> >>> if it is hot it shows bulb is always on.
> >>

philthy

49 degrees in michigan in the am and went up 54 then drop off once nite fall
came

*Rick* wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:32 -0500, billy ray wrote:
>
> Don't care if I never see another snow shovel. Lived in Ohio for 34 yrs.
> and now live in Florida. Current temp. is 67 degrees F, wind 9mph ENE
> under clear skies.
> Not a bad day to get this taken care of.
>
> I know, there goes the sympathy. :-) If it makes you feel better, I would
> rather be fishing.
>
> Rick
>
> > You can just leave the battery cable disconnected until the weather
> > clears/heath improves, no sense laying in the snow if you don't need to.
> >
> >
> > "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:0LQzf.18296$sq.4928@trnddc01...
> >> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:40:44 +0000, DougB wrote:
> >>
> >> No light fixture under the hood on my model.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the thought. Still open to suggestions!
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>> Could be the under hood light if you have one fitted.Lift hood touch
> >>> bulb,
> >>> if it is hot it shows bulb is always on.
> >>

philthy

acid on top of battery if there is and it makes it from one terminal to the
other there is your draw

One out of many daves wrote:

> yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(
>
> check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
> causing a draw.
>
> good luck!
> --
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
> 88 XJ 4.0 auto
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
> >
> > Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> > connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> > there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
> >
> > By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
> >
> > I'm very open to sugestions still.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
> >> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
> >> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
> >> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
> >> thought...
> >>
> >> Professor
> >> www.telstar-electronics.com
> >

philthy

acid on top of battery if there is and it makes it from one terminal to the
other there is your draw

One out of many daves wrote:

> yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(
>
> check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
> causing a draw.
>
> good luck!
> --
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
> 88 XJ 4.0 auto
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
> >
> > Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> > connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> > there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
> >
> > By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
> >
> > I'm very open to sugestions still.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
> >> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
> >> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
> >> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
> >> thought...
> >>
> >> Professor
> >> www.telstar-electronics.com
> >

philthy

acid on top of battery if there is and it makes it from one terminal to the
other there is your draw

One out of many daves wrote:

> yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(
>
> check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
> causing a draw.
>
> good luck!
> --
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
> 88 XJ 4.0 auto
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
> >
> > Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> > connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> > there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
> >
> > By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
> >
> > I'm very open to sugestions still.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
> >> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
> >> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
> >> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
> >> thought...
> >>
> >> Professor
> >> www.telstar-electronics.com
> >

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:15 +0000, *Rick* wrote:

Thanks for all that replied. The draw was the ETR "Electronically Tuned
Radios" fuse that caused the draw. Removed the fuse everything seems to
work. Battery is staying up, I'll figure it out later when I trace what is
connected to this fuse, but it works for now.
Thanks again.

Rick

> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't
> need both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits. After a
> couple of days the battery runs down. So far I have removed the dome
> light thinking we might be leaving the door ajar or neighbor kid might
> be looking for change again, no help. Removed the light bulb in the
> glove box, still no help. I have removed the fuse for the clock and
> still have the draw on the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched it out with
> the battery from the other car and it is drawn down. When I charge the
> jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok. Looking at the
> wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the key out of
> the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:15 +0000, *Rick* wrote:

Thanks for all that replied. The draw was the ETR "Electronically Tuned
Radios" fuse that caused the draw. Removed the fuse everything seems to
work. Battery is staying up, I'll figure it out later when I trace what is
connected to this fuse, but it works for now.
Thanks again.

Rick

> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't
> need both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits. After a
> couple of days the battery runs down. So far I have removed the dome
> light thinking we might be leaving the door ajar or neighbor kid might
> be looking for change again, no help. Removed the light bulb in the
> glove box, still no help. I have removed the fuse for the clock and
> still have the draw on the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched it out with
> the battery from the other car and it is drawn down. When I charge the
> jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok. Looking at the
> wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the key out of
> the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:15 +0000, *Rick* wrote:

Thanks for all that replied. The draw was the ETR "Electronically Tuned
Radios" fuse that caused the draw. Removed the fuse everything seems to
work. Battery is staying up, I'll figure it out later when I trace what is
connected to this fuse, but it works for now.
Thanks again.

Rick

> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't
> need both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits. After a
> couple of days the battery runs down. So far I have removed the dome
> light thinking we might be leaving the door ajar or neighbor kid might
> be looking for change again, no help. Removed the light bulb in the
> glove box, still no help. I have removed the fuse for the clock and
> still have the draw on the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched it out with
> the battery from the other car and it is drawn down. When I charge the
> jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok. Looking at the
> wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the key out of
> the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick