*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:32 -0500, billy ray wrote:

Don't care if I never see another snow shovel. Lived in Ohio for 34 yrs.
and now live in Florida. Current temp. is 67 degrees F, wind 9mph ENE
under clear skies.
Not a bad day to get this taken care of.

I know, there goes the sympathy. :-) If it makes you feel better, I would
rather be fishing.

Rick

> You can just leave the battery cable disconnected until the weather
> clears/heath improves, no sense laying in the snow if you don't need to.
>
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0LQzf.18296$sq.4928@trnddc01...
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:40:44 +0000, DougB wrote:
>>
>> No light fixture under the hood on my model.
>>
>> Thanks for the thought. Still open to suggestions!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>> Could be the under hood light if you have one fitted.Lift hood touch
>>> bulb,
>>> if it is hot it shows bulb is always on.
>>

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:32 -0500, billy ray wrote:

Don't care if I never see another snow shovel. Lived in Ohio for 34 yrs.
and now live in Florida. Current temp. is 67 degrees F, wind 9mph ENE
under clear skies.
Not a bad day to get this taken care of.

I know, there goes the sympathy. :-) If it makes you feel better, I would
rather be fishing.

Rick

> You can just leave the battery cable disconnected until the weather
> clears/heath improves, no sense laying in the snow if you don't need to.
>
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0LQzf.18296$sq.4928@trnddc01...
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:40:44 +0000, DougB wrote:
>>
>> No light fixture under the hood on my model.
>>
>> Thanks for the thought. Still open to suggestions!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>> Could be the under hood light if you have one fitted.Lift hood touch
>>> bulb,
>>> if it is hot it shows bulb is always on.
>>

Rusted

Pull all of the fuses, and see if you still have draw. This will isolate
all of your fused circuits which is the largest part to troubleshoot. If
the draw is gone, then add one fuse at a time until you find the one or ones
that are causing the draw. If you still have a draw with all the fuses out
you have eliminated a huge part of the puzzle.



"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:jTPzf.18292$sq.4168@trnddc01...
> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't need
> both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits.
> After a couple of days the battery runs down.
> So far I have removed the dome light thinking we might be leaving the door
> ajar or neighbor kid might be looking for change again, no help.
> Removed the light bulb in the glove box, still no help.
> I have removed the fuse for the clock and still have the draw on
> the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched
> it out with the battery from the other car and it is drawn down.
> When I charge the jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok.
> Looking at the wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the
> key out of the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick
>

Rusted

Pull all of the fuses, and see if you still have draw. This will isolate
all of your fused circuits which is the largest part to troubleshoot. If
the draw is gone, then add one fuse at a time until you find the one or ones
that are causing the draw. If you still have a draw with all the fuses out
you have eliminated a huge part of the puzzle.



"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:jTPzf.18292$sq.4168@trnddc01...
> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't need
> both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits.
> After a couple of days the battery runs down.
> So far I have removed the dome light thinking we might be leaving the door
> ajar or neighbor kid might be looking for change again, no help.
> Removed the light bulb in the glove box, still no help.
> I have removed the fuse for the clock and still have the draw on
> the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched
> it out with the battery from the other car and it is drawn down.
> When I charge the jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok.
> Looking at the wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the
> key out of the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick
>

Rusted

Pull all of the fuses, and see if you still have draw. This will isolate
all of your fused circuits which is the largest part to troubleshoot. If
the draw is gone, then add one fuse at a time until you find the one or ones
that are causing the draw. If you still have a draw with all the fuses out
you have eliminated a huge part of the puzzle.



"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:jTPzf.18292$sq.4168@trnddc01...
> 88 Cherokee
> 4.0 IL 6
> Auto trans.
> High miles - 300,000 +
> Always been dependable!
>
> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't need
> both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits.
> After a couple of days the battery runs down.
> So far I have removed the dome light thinking we might be leaving the door
> ajar or neighbor kid might be looking for change again, no help.
> Removed the light bulb in the glove box, still no help.
> I have removed the fuse for the clock and still have the draw on
> the battery.
> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough to
> light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
> battery.
>
> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched
> it out with the battery from the other car and it is drawn down.
> When I charge the jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok.
> Looking at the wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the
> key out of the ignition switch.
> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
> battery.
> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>
> Rick
>

One out of many daves

yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(

check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
causing a draw.

good luck!
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto

"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
>
> Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
>
> By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
>
> I'm very open to sugestions still.
>
> Rick
>
>> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
>> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
>> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
>> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
>> thought...
>>
>> Professor
>> www.telstar-electronics.com
>

One out of many daves

yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(

check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
causing a draw.

good luck!
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto

"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
>
> Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
>
> By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
>
> I'm very open to sugestions still.
>
> Rick
>
>> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
>> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
>> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
>> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
>> thought...
>>
>> Professor
>> www.telstar-electronics.com
>

One out of many daves

yeah I was thinking alt too. :-(

check the latch relay near the ign. coil. Might be one of those relays
causing a draw.

good luck!
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto

"*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
news:7qRzf.18298$sq.6924@trnddc01...
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:04 -0800, Professor wrote:
>
> Made sense to me so I grabbed the 10mm wrench and removed the BAT.
> connection at the alternator. I'm sorry to report that the draw is still
> there. Thank you for what sounded like a very possible solution.
>
> By the way the current didn't change as I removed the fuses.
>
> I'm very open to sugestions still.
>
> Rick
>
>> You are correct... 280mA is much too high a standby current. If you have
>> monitored the current after each fuse has been removed with no current
>> reduction... you might try removing the "BATT" connection to the
>> alternator. Maybe you have a leaky diode in the rectifier pack. Just a
>> thought...
>>
>> Professor
>> www.telstar-electronics.com
>

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:34:20 -0700, Rusted wrote:

I put the (DVOM) amp meter in line and pulled the fuses.
Draw went from 280mA to 6 point 25 amps when I removed fuse
labled ETR(?). Thats good for me.
Then I reinstalled all but the 10amp fuse for ETR.
Everything seems to work. What is ETR?
I don't see it on diagrams that I have.

Rick



> Pull all of the fuses, and see if you still have draw. This will
> isolate all of your fused circuits which is the largest part to
> troubleshoot. If the draw is gone, then add one fuse at a time until
> you find the one or ones that are causing the draw. If you still have
> a draw with all the fuses out you have eliminated a huge part of the
> puzzle.
>
>
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:jTPzf.18292$sq.4168@trnddc01...
>> 88 Cherokee
>> 4.0 IL 6
>> Auto trans.
>> High miles - 300,000 +
>> Always been dependable!
>>
>> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't
>> need both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits. After a
>> couple of days the battery runs down. So far I have removed the dome
>> light thinking we might be leaving the door ajar or neighbor kid might
>> be looking for change again, no help. Removed the light bulb in the
>> glove box, still no help. I have removed the fuse for the clock and
>> still have the draw on the battery.
>> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough
>> to light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
>> battery.
>>
>> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched it out
>> with the battery from the other car and it is drawn down. When I charge
>> the jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok. Looking at
>> the wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the key out
>> of the ignition switch.
>> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
>> battery.
>> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
>> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>>
>> Rick
>>

*Rick*

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:34:20 -0700, Rusted wrote:

I put the (DVOM) amp meter in line and pulled the fuses.
Draw went from 280mA to 6 point 25 amps when I removed fuse
labled ETR(?). Thats good for me.
Then I reinstalled all but the 10amp fuse for ETR.
Everything seems to work. What is ETR?
I don't see it on diagrams that I have.

Rick



> Pull all of the fuses, and see if you still have draw. This will
> isolate all of your fused circuits which is the largest part to
> troubleshoot. If the draw is gone, then add one fuse at a time until
> you find the one or ones that are causing the draw. If you still have
> a draw with all the fuses out you have eliminated a huge part of the
> puzzle.
>
>
>
> "*Rick*" <here@the-house.invalid> wrote in message
> news:jTPzf.18292$sq.4168@trnddc01...
>> 88 Cherokee
>> 4.0 IL 6
>> Auto trans.
>> High miles - 300,000 +
>> Always been dependable!
>>
>> I haven't been using the jeep very much do to illness here and don't
>> need both vehicles. This ones not the economy king so it sits. After a
>> couple of days the battery runs down. So far I have removed the dome
>> light thinking we might be leaving the door ajar or neighbor kid might
>> be looking for change again, no help. Removed the light bulb in the
>> glove box, still no help. I have removed the fuse for the clock and
>> still have the draw on the battery.
>> Checked draw with digital VOM, I have a 280mA draw on battery, enough
>> to light a test probe light when in series with the neg. cable from the
>> battery.
>>
>> It is not a problem with the battery because I have switched it out
>> with the battery from the other car and it is drawn down. When I charge
>> the jeep battery, and load test, the battery shows to be ok. Looking at
>> the wiring diagram I don't see any other possible draw with the key out
>> of the ignition switch.
>> I haven't added any accessories that would be a direct draw on the
>> battery.
>> What am I missing, other than a sence of humor right now. What could be
>> drawing 280mA all the time? TIA, Open to all suggestions.
>>
>> Rick
>>