Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

You should understood that newer CJs that came with alternators also
came with voltmeters, not amp meters. Vehicles with alternators use
voltmeters, vehicles with generators use amp meters. It's all in how
generators vs. alternators work and that an amp meter (ammeter) is not
as useful for determining the condition of the battery as a volt meter
is in an alternator equipped vehicle. Just like a volt meter doesn't
help much in a generator-equipped vehicle.

Why are alternators better than generators? Because they can charge a
battery even when the engine is idling, older generators need the rpms
to be higher for that to happen.

Bill, your senseless continued slamming of anything that is not a CJ is
still causing you to spout out a lot of incorrect information... your
slamming of the use of voltmeters instead of an amp meter when you don't
understand why (or that later CJs came with voltmeters) is just one more
indication of you being blinded by your hate for anything that isn't a
CJ... which just makes some of what you write here pretty ridiculous to
someone with less of a chip on his shoulder.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Real Jeeps come stock with Amp gauges, like ALL Hod Rodders have,
> and anyone whom wants to know what's happening under their hood:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworthdash.jpg All a volt meter tells you is
> your battery's not dead, YET!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>Voltmeter (on TJ gauge) has started creeping up from below 14 volts ( 13.8
>>? ) and now reads consistently around 14.1 Battery is around 4 years old,
>>but always birls the engine round quickly. Is this most likely to be an
>>early warning of battery failure, alternator failure or voltage regulator
>>( is that in the management system or the alternator ) ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
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Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

You should understood that newer CJs that came with alternators also
came with voltmeters, not amp meters. Vehicles with alternators use
voltmeters, vehicles with generators use amp meters. It's all in how
generators vs. alternators work and that an amp meter (ammeter) is not
as useful for determining the condition of the battery as a volt meter
is in an alternator equipped vehicle. Just like a volt meter doesn't
help much in a generator-equipped vehicle.

Why are alternators better than generators? Because they can charge a
battery even when the engine is idling, older generators need the rpms
to be higher for that to happen.

Bill, your senseless continued slamming of anything that is not a CJ is
still causing you to spout out a lot of incorrect information... your
slamming of the use of voltmeters instead of an amp meter when you don't
understand why (or that later CJs came with voltmeters) is just one more
indication of you being blinded by your hate for anything that isn't a
CJ... which just makes some of what you write here pretty ridiculous to
someone with less of a chip on his shoulder.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Real Jeeps come stock with Amp gauges, like ALL Hod Rodders have,
> and anyone whom wants to know what's happening under their hood:
> http://www.----------.com/kenworthdash.jpg All a volt meter tells you is
> your battery's not dead, YET!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>Voltmeter (on TJ gauge) has started creeping up from below 14 volts ( 13.8
>>? ) and now reads consistently around 14.1 Battery is around 4 years old,
>>but always birls the engine round quickly. Is this most likely to be an
>>early warning of battery failure, alternator failure or voltage regulator
>>( is that in the management system or the alternator ) ?
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Exactly, your alternator-equipped Jeep uses a voltmeter... since an amp
meter is not needed for an alternator equipped vehicle like it is for
one that has a generator like hasn't been used in many years.

Joe Carroll wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:28:42 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Real Jeeps come stock with Amp gauges, like ALL Hod Rodders have,
>>and anyone whom wants to know what's happening under their hood:
>
>
> Damn, you mean thats a voltmeter and not an amp gauge on my 2k-tj?
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Exactly, your alternator-equipped Jeep uses a voltmeter... since an amp
meter is not needed for an alternator equipped vehicle like it is for
one that has a generator like hasn't been used in many years.

Joe Carroll wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:28:42 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Real Jeeps come stock with Amp gauges, like ALL Hod Rodders have,
>>and anyone whom wants to know what's happening under their hood:
>
>
> Damn, you mean thats a voltmeter and not an amp gauge on my 2k-tj?
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Exactly, your alternator-equipped Jeep uses a voltmeter... since an amp
meter is not needed for an alternator equipped vehicle like it is for
one that has a generator like hasn't been used in many years.

Joe Carroll wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:28:42 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Real Jeeps come stock with Amp gauges, like ALL Hod Rodders have,
>>and anyone whom wants to know what's happening under their hood:
>
>
> Damn, you mean thats a voltmeter and not an amp gauge on my 2k-tj?
>
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Then buy a set:
http://www.stewartwarner.com/Products/prod1.html
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'd much rather have an ammeter than a voltmeter as you say.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Then buy a set:
http://www.stewartwarner.com/Products/prod1.html
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'd much rather have an ammeter than a voltmeter as you say.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

Then buy a set:
http://www.stewartwarner.com/Products/prod1.html
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'd much rather have an ammeter than a voltmeter as you say.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:00:30 -0800, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@cox.net>
wrote:

>Exactly, your alternator-equipped Jeep uses a voltmeter... since an amp
>meter is not needed for an alternator equipped vehicle like it is for
>one that has a generator like hasn't been used in many years.
>
Ok, I just assumed that since it was showing a positive or negative 14
it was an amp meter. I'm old but I'm still learning... Actually I
pulled up this link and it helped also..
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_8/4.html


Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Re: Battery Charging Voltage
 

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:00:30 -0800, Jerry Bransford <jerrypb@cox.net>
wrote:

>Exactly, your alternator-equipped Jeep uses a voltmeter... since an amp
>meter is not needed for an alternator equipped vehicle like it is for
>one that has a generator like hasn't been used in many years.
>
Ok, I just assumed that since it was showing a positive or negative 14
it was an amp meter. I'm old but I'm still learning... Actually I
pulled up this link and it helped also..
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_8/4.html


Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer