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Re: ball joint pricing
Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off
is a good sign that ball joint was going out. Carl "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > pump!) > > Jeff DeWitt > > bspear78 wrote: >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off
is a good sign that ball joint was going out. Carl "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > pump!) > > Jeff DeWitt > > bspear78 wrote: >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball
joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the front end. Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT Carl wrote: > Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off > is a good sign that ball joint was going out. > > Carl > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > > pump!) > > > > Jeff DeWitt > > > > bspear78 wrote: > >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a > >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought > >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ > >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball
joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the front end. Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT Carl wrote: > Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off > is a good sign that ball joint was going out. > > Carl > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > > pump!) > > > > Jeff DeWitt > > > > bspear78 wrote: > >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a > >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought > >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ > >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball
joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the front end. Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT Carl wrote: > Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off > is a good sign that ball joint was going out. > > Carl > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > > pump!) > > > > Jeff DeWitt > > > > bspear78 wrote: > >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a > >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought > >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ > >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
On my TJ when the shop showed me my bad balljoints they had it on a short
little lift and pried from the bottom under the tire with a crowbar and yeah I did see it flex a bit. When viewed from the front at a distance with the tires straight I could tell there was a little lean to the inside from the top. When I jacked it up off the ground the wheel was straight so I replaced them now its all good. Hope that helps. So your TJ needs new balljoints or are you chasing down a shimmy problem? Troy bspear78 wrote: > Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball > joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. > Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe > an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the > front end. > > Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT > Carl wrote: >> Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying >> off is a good sign that ball joint was going out. >> >> Carl >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... >> > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My >> > Cherokee is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the >> > 2nd best car I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned >> > about the ball joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. >> > >> > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, >> > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and >> > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 >> > water pump!) >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt >> > >> > bspear78 wrote: >> >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a >> >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I >> >> thought that was high. bryan 97 TJ >> >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
On my TJ when the shop showed me my bad balljoints they had it on a short
little lift and pried from the bottom under the tire with a crowbar and yeah I did see it flex a bit. When viewed from the front at a distance with the tires straight I could tell there was a little lean to the inside from the top. When I jacked it up off the ground the wheel was straight so I replaced them now its all good. Hope that helps. So your TJ needs new balljoints or are you chasing down a shimmy problem? Troy bspear78 wrote: > Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball > joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. > Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe > an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the > front end. > > Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT > Carl wrote: >> Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying >> off is a good sign that ball joint was going out. >> >> Carl >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... >> > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My >> > Cherokee is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the >> > 2nd best car I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned >> > about the ball joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. >> > >> > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, >> > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and >> > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 >> > water pump!) >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt >> > >> > bspear78 wrote: >> >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a >> >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I >> >> thought that was high. bryan 97 TJ >> >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
On my TJ when the shop showed me my bad balljoints they had it on a short
little lift and pried from the bottom under the tire with a crowbar and yeah I did see it flex a bit. When viewed from the front at a distance with the tires straight I could tell there was a little lean to the inside from the top. When I jacked it up off the ground the wheel was straight so I replaced them now its all good. Hope that helps. So your TJ needs new balljoints or are you chasing down a shimmy problem? Troy bspear78 wrote: > Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball > joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. > Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe > an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the > front end. > > Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT > Carl wrote: >> Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying >> off is a good sign that ball joint was going out. >> >> Carl >> >> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... >> > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My >> > Cherokee is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the >> > 2nd best car I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned >> > about the ball joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. >> > >> > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, >> > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and >> > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 >> > water pump!) >> > >> > Jeff DeWitt >> > >> > bspear78 wrote: >> >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a >> >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I >> >> thought that was high. bryan 97 TJ >> >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
You can tell the shape of the ball joints 'usually' by using your eye
and looking from the front or a level. If the tires are tilted out either at the bottom or top, you have one or more bad ball joints on that tire. Wandering can be from a worn tie rod end or even a sloppy u-joint on the steering column just by the firewall. You can lay under while someone pins the steering side to side while you watch all the moving joints for slop. Either side to side slop, or up and down slop. Not enough to in can also make it wander. You can check that with a tape measure as mentioned earlier. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > > Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball > joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. > Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe > an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the > front end. > > Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT > Carl wrote: > > Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off > > is a good sign that ball joint was going out. > > > > Carl > > > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > > > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > > > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > > > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > > > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > > > > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > > > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > > > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > > > pump!) > > > > > > Jeff DeWitt > > > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a > > >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought > > >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ > > >> |
Re: ball joint pricing
You can tell the shape of the ball joints 'usually' by using your eye
and looking from the front or a level. If the tires are tilted out either at the bottom or top, you have one or more bad ball joints on that tire. Wandering can be from a worn tie rod end or even a sloppy u-joint on the steering column just by the firewall. You can lay under while someone pins the steering side to side while you watch all the moving joints for slop. Either side to side slop, or up and down slop. Not enough to in can also make it wander. You can check that with a tape measure as mentioned earlier. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > > Went to a garage, put it up on a lift and saw no signs of bad ball > joints. the tires were solid when I tried to move them. Nothing loose. > Steering is fine except that it is not as tight as I would like. maybe > an alignment would help that, or it could be something else in the > front end. > > Bryan 97 TJ BFG 30x9.5 AT > Carl wrote: > > Like death wobble but scarier. Also, a wheel and brake assembly flying off > > is a good sign that ball joint was going out. > > > > Carl > > > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:YVt7h.44208$HD6.4749@tornado.southeast.rr.com ... > > > Related question, what are the symptoms of worn ball joints? My Cherokee > > > is the only "modern" vehicle (except for a Ford Granada, the 2nd best car > > > I ever had) that I've had long enough to be concerned about the ball > > > joints, and the Jeep has over 300,000 miles on it. > > > > > > (That Granada was a 2dr, battleship gray six cylinder with a 4 speed, > > > bought it with 100k on it, sold it with 200k, got more than I paid, and > > > the only thing other than brakes that had to be replaced was an $18 water > > > pump!) > > > > > > Jeff DeWitt > > > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > >> what can I expect to pay for all 4 new ball joints and labor at a > > >> garage?? I dont want to get screwed. NTB quoted me 800.00 and I thought > > >> that was high. bryan 97 TJ > > >> |
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