Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question.
07-07-2006, 09:49 AM
#21
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
99 when I assembled it.
I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
compare the others they have and all were the same size.
As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
could fall off.
There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
too short for that clip to go on.
When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
lb BFH.
So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> one that still had a grease nipple.
>
> They also have a light duty one listed.
>
> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>
> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> other one?
>
> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> don't think it will fit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
99 when I assembled it.
I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
compare the others they have and all were the same size.
As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
could fall off.
There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
too short for that clip to go on.
When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
lb BFH.
So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> one that still had a grease nipple.
>
> They also have a light duty one listed.
>
> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>
> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> other one?
>
> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> don't think it will fit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-07-2006, 09:49 AM
#22
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
99 when I assembled it.
I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
compare the others they have and all were the same size.
As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
could fall off.
There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
too short for that clip to go on.
When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
lb BFH.
So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> one that still had a grease nipple.
>
> They also have a light duty one listed.
>
> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>
> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> other one?
>
> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> don't think it will fit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
99 when I assembled it.
I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
compare the others they have and all were the same size.
As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
could fall off.
There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
too short for that clip to go on.
When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
lb BFH.
So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> one that still had a grease nipple.
>
> They also have a light duty one listed.
>
> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>
> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> other one?
>
> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> don't think it will fit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question.
Oh, ok, see the other post I just made.
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question.
Oh, ok, see the other post I just made.
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question.
Oh, ok, see the other post I just made.
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
I guess gravity will do the job so the wheel won't just fall of eh?
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> Mine also had the ring with it, but wouldn't stick out enough to put on,
> and since the ones that came out didn't have it I didn't worry about it.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AD0FA1.C2145203@sympatico.ca...
> > Thanks, I am on my way back up there in a moment just to eyeball the
> > 'standard' one. I have a 1342, so it is likely the right one, but man
> > the deck height is so much thicker looking....
> >
> > This one also has a C ring for the bottom that in no way will even come
> > close to fitting. The bottom isn't thick enough to poke out below my
> > knuckle.
> >
> > Could just be an optical illusion, I will see.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Napa #s are 260-1342 and 260-1343, 81 CJ7 dana 30 upper and lower, not
> >> sure which is which though.
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:yXZqg.126221$Mn5.12833@pd7tw3no...
> >> > I replaced mine with all my other front end parts a couple months ago,
> >> > think I still have the box end and part # if you want it, from napa,
> >> > had
> >> > the grease nipple.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:44AC2DEE.28660D0A@sympatico.ca...
> >> >>I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >> >>
> >> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> >> other one?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> >> don't think it will fit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> >
07-08-2006, 10:00 AM
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Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-08-2006, 10:00 AM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-08-2006, 10:00 AM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
rock.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
>
> It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> 99 when I assembled it.
>
> I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> compare the others they have and all were the same size.
>
> As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> could fall off.
>
> There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
>
> It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> too short for that clip to go on.
>
> When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> lb BFH.
>
> So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
>
> Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
>> one that still had a grease nipple.
>>
>> They also have a light duty one listed.
>>
>> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
>> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
>>
>> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
>> other one?
>>
>> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
>> don't think it will fit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-11-2006, 09:50 AM
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
LOL!
Ok, it only took me a couple Portuguese construction workers a pry bar
and a BFH...
It seemed to stay put, tried it out over the last couple days.
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
> wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
> rock.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
> >
> > It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> > 99 when I assembled it.
> >
> > I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> > compare the others they have and all were the same size.
> >
> > As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> > rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> > could fall off.
> >
> > There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
> >
> > It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> > too short for that clip to go on.
> >
> > When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> > knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> > the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> > and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> > cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> > pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> > lb BFH.
> >
> > So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> > isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
> >
> > Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >>
> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >>
> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> other one?
> >>
> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> don't think it will fit.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Ok, it only took me a couple Portuguese construction workers a pry bar
and a BFH...
It seemed to stay put, tried it out over the last couple days.
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
> wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
> rock.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
> >
> > It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> > 99 when I assembled it.
> >
> > I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> > compare the others they have and all were the same size.
> >
> > As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> > rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> > could fall off.
> >
> > There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
> >
> > It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> > too short for that clip to go on.
> >
> > When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> > knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> > the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> > and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> > cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> > pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> > lb BFH.
> >
> > So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> > isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
> >
> > Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >>
> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >>
> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> other one?
> >>
> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> don't think it will fit.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-11-2006, 09:50 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ball Joint differences in Spicer/Dana axle Question. Results...
LOL!
Ok, it only took me a couple Portuguese construction workers a pry bar
and a BFH...
It seemed to stay put, tried it out over the last couple days.
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
> wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
> rock.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
> >
> > It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> > 99 when I assembled it.
> >
> > I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> > compare the others they have and all were the same size.
> >
> > As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> > rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> > could fall off.
> >
> > There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
> >
> > It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> > too short for that clip to go on.
> >
> > When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> > knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> > the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> > and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> > cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> > pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> > lb BFH.
> >
> > So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> > isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
> >
> > Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >>
> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >>
> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> other one?
> >>
> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> don't think it will fit.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Ok, it only took me a couple Portuguese construction workers a pry bar
and a BFH...
It seemed to stay put, tried it out over the last couple days.
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> I had my knuckles out when I did mine, took 4000 lbs to press them in so I
> wont worry about anything falling off from my 100 lb wheel slipping off a
> rock.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44AE6682.62C60062@sympatico.ca...
> > Well, it's in there, but it didn't fit....
> >
> > It all came apart really easily because I used antiseize on it back in
> > 99 when I assembled it.
> >
> > I used the same part numbers as Greg on his, I went back to NAPA to
> > compare the others they have and all were the same size.
> >
> > As it sits right now, if I was say to have my front wheel slip off a
> > rock or something and it came down hard on the pumpkin, my front wheel
> > could fall off.
> >
> > There is nothing holding that ball joint in place!!!!
> >
> > It is supposed to have a C-clip on the bottom, but it is way over 1/8"
> > too short for that clip to go on.
> >
> > When I was tightening the top ball joint in, instead of it pulling the
> > knuckle up onto the lower ball joint, it started pulling itself out of
> > the top. I had a jack under it with all the weight of the vehicle on it
> > and no go. A construction crew from across the road saw/heard me
> > cussing it out and came over to help. They put an 8' bar in there and
> > pried up pulling it all together with a few convincing hits from my 10
> > lb BFH.
> >
> > So both the top and bottom u-joint seated all the way in, but the bottom
> > isn't even slightly close for that c-ring to hold it in place.
> >
> > Do I just figure gravity will do the job???
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> I picked up a new lower ball joint today and went with the heavy duty
> >> one that still had a grease nipple.
> >>
> >> They also have a light duty one listed.
> >>
> >> I was reading the directions and it says for a typical Spicer 44 front
> >> end. Well, I have a 30, not a 44.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know if they are the same part or do I need to go get the
> >> other one?
> >>
> >> I am eyeballing them and the deck on the new one appears thicker, I
> >> don't think it will fit.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)