Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

Hi Carlo,
I start with the shims that came off the old pinion, that's the
inaccuracy between the bores of that housing, usually that's close
enough for government work. The bluing in these examples are really a
negative of what we see: http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Carlo wrote:
>
> funny you should mention this............
> My son had a problem w/his D35 (89 YJ). He is just using it to go back &
> forth to Chico State, so I thought I would just drive over to West Coast
> Differential for a master bearing kit & hire a friend of a friend to show me
> how to do the "contact pattern " thing. (I think I have looked @ 15 or 20
> illustrations - but need to do a "hands on" before I can truly understand
> it). Got home, jacked it up next day & pulled the cover ----2 teeth stuck to
> the magnetic filler hole plug-------back to West Coast Differential on
> Monday. Well, got to the point of doing the "contact pattern" thing & I
> asked "so how do you do this?" - he said "I don't know, I never have done
> that. I always go by feel.". We put it together, he felt it a couple of
> times & said "we should add some shims to the pinion" I told him that I had
> .003", .005" & .010". he said to give him a .005", put it in & it felt good
> (to him). My neighbor has a tow truck service out of his home now, but used
> to own a garage & this guy worked for him for several years and he says that
> he did the rear end on his tow truck about 3 or 4 yrs ago & it is still
> running.
> So now I think I can handle removing & replacing the parts of an
> axle..................but I am still rather ignorant about the "contact
> pattern" thing. Some day I will find someone to "hand hold" me thru the
> process & I will have reached another milestone in my life.
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

There's probably thousands of fractured pieces of axle that
gravitate to the lowest point, the pinion bearings:
http://----------.com/dana35c/brentDSC04516.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
> A friend of mine with a '93 YJ & 35s did this two years ago to "save money".
> All was fine until it toasted the pinion bearings. Lasted about 5k miles.

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

There's probably thousands of fractured pieces of axle that
gravitate to the lowest point, the pinion bearings:
http://----------.com/dana35c/brentDSC04516.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
> A friend of mine with a '93 YJ & 35s did this two years ago to "save money".
> All was fine until it toasted the pinion bearings. Lasted about 5k miles.

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

There's probably thousands of fractured pieces of axle that
gravitate to the lowest point, the pinion bearings:
http://----------.com/dana35c/brentDSC04516.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
> A friend of mine with a '93 YJ & 35s did this two years ago to "save money".
> All was fine until it toasted the pinion bearings. Lasted about 5k miles.

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

There's probably thousands of fractured pieces of axle that
gravitate to the lowest point, the pinion bearings:
http://----------.com/dana35c/brentDSC04516.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

SoK66 wrote:
>
> A friend of mine with a '93 YJ & 35s did this two years ago to "save money".
> All was fine until it toasted the pinion bearings. Lasted about 5k miles.

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

Thanks much - I have looked @ the diagrams in the FSM, in the manual that
came with the bearing kit, in a JP magazine article, & even a VHS tape from
Richmond Gear, etc - & looking at this one helps (it adds another bit to the
other 10 I've looked at). Books & diagrams always help - but I think I'm
going to have to find something that I'm not in a pinch to fix on a schedule
& just play with it. As in the Nike TV ad - "Just Do It".

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C5359.787EA0E@cox.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> I start with the shims that came off the old pinion, that's the
> inaccuracy between the bores of that housing, usually that's close
> enough for government work. The bluing in these examples are really a
> negative of what we see: http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > funny you should mention this............
> > My son had a problem w/his D35 (89 YJ). He is just using it to go back &
> > forth to Chico State, so I thought I would just drive over to West Coast
> > Differential for a master bearing kit & hire a friend of a friend to
show me
> > how to do the "contact pattern " thing. (I think I have looked @ 15 or
20
> > illustrations - but need to do a "hands on" before I can truly
understand
> > it). Got home, jacked it up next day & pulled the cover ----2 teeth
stuck to
> > the magnetic filler hole plug-------back to West Coast Differential on
> > Monday. Well, got to the point of doing the "contact pattern" thing & I
> > asked "so how do you do this?" - he said "I don't know, I never have
done
> > that. I always go by feel.". We put it together, he felt it a couple of
> > times & said "we should add some shims to the pinion" I told him that I
had
> > .003", .005" & .010". he said to give him a .005", put it in & it felt
good
> > (to him). My neighbor has a tow truck service out of his home now, but
used
> > to own a garage & this guy worked for him for several years and he says
that
> > he did the rear end on his tow truck about 3 or 4 yrs ago & it is still
> > running.
> > So now I think I can handle removing & replacing the parts of an
> > axle..................but I am still rather ignorant about the "contact
> > pattern" thing. Some day I will find someone to "hand hold" me thru the
> > process & I will have reached another milestone in my life.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

Thanks much - I have looked @ the diagrams in the FSM, in the manual that
came with the bearing kit, in a JP magazine article, & even a VHS tape from
Richmond Gear, etc - & looking at this one helps (it adds another bit to the
other 10 I've looked at). Books & diagrams always help - but I think I'm
going to have to find something that I'm not in a pinch to fix on a schedule
& just play with it. As in the Nike TV ad - "Just Do It".

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C5359.787EA0E@cox.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> I start with the shims that came off the old pinion, that's the
> inaccuracy between the bores of that housing, usually that's close
> enough for government work. The bluing in these examples are really a
> negative of what we see: http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > funny you should mention this............
> > My son had a problem w/his D35 (89 YJ). He is just using it to go back &
> > forth to Chico State, so I thought I would just drive over to West Coast
> > Differential for a master bearing kit & hire a friend of a friend to
show me
> > how to do the "contact pattern " thing. (I think I have looked @ 15 or
20
> > illustrations - but need to do a "hands on" before I can truly
understand
> > it). Got home, jacked it up next day & pulled the cover ----2 teeth
stuck to
> > the magnetic filler hole plug-------back to West Coast Differential on
> > Monday. Well, got to the point of doing the "contact pattern" thing & I
> > asked "so how do you do this?" - he said "I don't know, I never have
done
> > that. I always go by feel.". We put it together, he felt it a couple of
> > times & said "we should add some shims to the pinion" I told him that I
had
> > .003", .005" & .010". he said to give him a .005", put it in & it felt
good
> > (to him). My neighbor has a tow truck service out of his home now, but
used
> > to own a garage & this guy worked for him for several years and he says
that
> > he did the rear end on his tow truck about 3 or 4 yrs ago & it is still
> > running.
> > So now I think I can handle removing & replacing the parts of an
> > axle..................but I am still rather ignorant about the "contact
> > pattern" thing. Some day I will find someone to "hand hold" me thru the
> > process & I will have reached another milestone in my life.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

Thanks much - I have looked @ the diagrams in the FSM, in the manual that
came with the bearing kit, in a JP magazine article, & even a VHS tape from
Richmond Gear, etc - & looking at this one helps (it adds another bit to the
other 10 I've looked at). Books & diagrams always help - but I think I'm
going to have to find something that I'm not in a pinch to fix on a schedule
& just play with it. As in the Nike TV ad - "Just Do It".

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C5359.787EA0E@cox.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> I start with the shims that came off the old pinion, that's the
> inaccuracy between the bores of that housing, usually that's close
> enough for government work. The bluing in these examples are really a
> negative of what we see: http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > funny you should mention this............
> > My son had a problem w/his D35 (89 YJ). He is just using it to go back &
> > forth to Chico State, so I thought I would just drive over to West Coast
> > Differential for a master bearing kit & hire a friend of a friend to
show me
> > how to do the "contact pattern " thing. (I think I have looked @ 15 or
20
> > illustrations - but need to do a "hands on" before I can truly
understand
> > it). Got home, jacked it up next day & pulled the cover ----2 teeth
stuck to
> > the magnetic filler hole plug-------back to West Coast Differential on
> > Monday. Well, got to the point of doing the "contact pattern" thing & I
> > asked "so how do you do this?" - he said "I don't know, I never have
done
> > that. I always go by feel.". We put it together, he felt it a couple of
> > times & said "we should add some shims to the pinion" I told him that I
had
> > .003", .005" & .010". he said to give him a .005", put it in & it felt
good
> > (to him). My neighbor has a tow truck service out of his home now, but
used
> > to own a garage & this guy worked for him for several years and he says
that
> > he did the rear end on his tow truck about 3 or 4 yrs ago & it is still
> > running.
> > So now I think I can handle removing & replacing the parts of an
> > axle..................but I am still rather ignorant about the "contact
> > pattern" thing. Some day I will find someone to "hand hold" me thru the
> > process & I will have reached another milestone in my life.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

Thanks much - I have looked @ the diagrams in the FSM, in the manual that
came with the bearing kit, in a JP magazine article, & even a VHS tape from
Richmond Gear, etc - & looking at this one helps (it adds another bit to the
other 10 I've looked at). Books & diagrams always help - but I think I'm
going to have to find something that I'm not in a pinch to fix on a schedule
& just play with it. As in the Nike TV ad - "Just Do It".

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C5359.787EA0E@cox.net...
> Hi Carlo,
> I start with the shims that came off the old pinion, that's the
> inaccuracy between the bores of that housing, usually that's close
> enough for government work. The bluing in these examples are really a
> negative of what we see: http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Carlo wrote:
> >
> > funny you should mention this............
> > My son had a problem w/his D35 (89 YJ). He is just using it to go back &
> > forth to Chico State, so I thought I would just drive over to West Coast
> > Differential for a master bearing kit & hire a friend of a friend to
show me
> > how to do the "contact pattern " thing. (I think I have looked @ 15 or
20
> > illustrations - but need to do a "hands on" before I can truly
understand
> > it). Got home, jacked it up next day & pulled the cover ----2 teeth
stuck to
> > the magnetic filler hole plug-------back to West Coast Differential on
> > Monday. Well, got to the point of doing the "contact pattern" thing & I
> > asked "so how do you do this?" - he said "I don't know, I never have
done
> > that. I always go by feel.". We put it together, he felt it a couple of
> > times & said "we should add some shims to the pinion" I told him that I
had
> > .003", .005" & .010". he said to give him a .005", put it in & it felt
good
> > (to him). My neighbor has a tow truck service out of his home now, but
used
> > to own a garage & this guy worked for him for several years and he says
that
> > he did the rear end on his tow truck about 3 or 4 yrs ago & it is still
> > running.
> > So now I think I can handle removing & replacing the parts of an
> > axle..................but I am still rather ignorant about the "contact
> > pattern" thing. Some day I will find someone to "hand hold" me thru the
> > process & I will have reached another milestone in my life.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
> > '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > O|||||||O
> > '92 Explorer '65 Mustang