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Doug 04-24-2005 11:58 AM

Axles - Advice needed
 
'94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...

I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of my
predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
an axle from a 91 though - $325.

For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7. rear
is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
already.

I'm very tempted, but:
1. Will it work?
2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?

Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.

Thanks,
Doug



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Hi Doug,
If you flip the Civilian Jeep front differential over you will only
have one speed forward.
Seems like you're open to giving up your Antilock Brake System
which at ten years old isn't working anyway, look for a 44 from a Real
Jeep: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
Please send pictures of your 35 to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7. rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Hi Doug,
If you flip the Civilian Jeep front differential over you will only
have one speed forward.
Seems like you're open to giving up your Antilock Brake System
which at ten years old isn't working anyway, look for a 44 from a Real
Jeep: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
Please send pictures of your 35 to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7. rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Hi Doug,
If you flip the Civilian Jeep front differential over you will only
have one speed forward.
Seems like you're open to giving up your Antilock Brake System
which at ten years old isn't working anyway, look for a 44 from a Real
Jeep: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
Please send pictures of your 35 to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7. rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Hi Doug,
If you flip the Civilian Jeep front differential over you will only
have one speed forward.
Seems like you're open to giving up your Antilock Brake System
which at ten years old isn't working anyway, look for a 44 from a Real
Jeep: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/convaxle/d44.html
Please send pictures of your 35 to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7. rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?




"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?




"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?




"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?




"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



SoK66 04-24-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.



SoK66 04-24-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.



SoK66 04-24-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.



SoK66 04-24-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.



Tom Greening 04-24-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of

my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.

rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>




Tom Greening 04-24-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of

my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.

rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>




Tom Greening 04-24-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of

my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.

rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>




Tom Greening 04-24-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of

my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.

rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>




Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>

>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>

>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>

>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>

>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>



Doug 04-24-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:3wUae.183$Eg.72@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Could you define "no longer works"?
>
> 1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
> $325.00 price range.
> 2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
> 3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
> budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
> anyway. Some crazier than others.
>
> Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
> fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
> odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially
> if
> you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"No Longer Works" = (short version) Pinion nut came off. jeep would no
longer go forward. Spider gears are a mess.With the pinion yoke back on I
can turn the yoke, but feels like there are pebbles in there...

I could probably have the thing rebuilt. My guess is somewhere in the
neighborhood of $500-$600. I'd hate to put that kind of money into that axle
if I can find a better solution - short of buying a real jeep!

So, it seems like I have the following options: (not in any particular
order)

1. rebuild existing axle
2. ford rear from bronco
3. look for "donor" jeep. (besides an exact match, should I consider others,
like the scout or wagoneer? if so, what years?)



Doug 04-24-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:3wUae.183$Eg.72@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Could you define "no longer works"?
>
> 1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
> $325.00 price range.
> 2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
> 3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
> budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
> anyway. Some crazier than others.
>
> Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
> fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
> odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially
> if
> you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"No Longer Works" = (short version) Pinion nut came off. jeep would no
longer go forward. Spider gears are a mess.With the pinion yoke back on I
can turn the yoke, but feels like there are pebbles in there...

I could probably have the thing rebuilt. My guess is somewhere in the
neighborhood of $500-$600. I'd hate to put that kind of money into that axle
if I can find a better solution - short of buying a real jeep!

So, it seems like I have the following options: (not in any particular
order)

1. rebuild existing axle
2. ford rear from bronco
3. look for "donor" jeep. (besides an exact match, should I consider others,
like the scout or wagoneer? if so, what years?)



Doug 04-24-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:3wUae.183$Eg.72@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Could you define "no longer works"?
>
> 1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
> $325.00 price range.
> 2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
> 3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
> budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
> anyway. Some crazier than others.
>
> Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
> fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
> odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially
> if
> you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"No Longer Works" = (short version) Pinion nut came off. jeep would no
longer go forward. Spider gears are a mess.With the pinion yoke back on I
can turn the yoke, but feels like there are pebbles in there...

I could probably have the thing rebuilt. My guess is somewhere in the
neighborhood of $500-$600. I'd hate to put that kind of money into that axle
if I can find a better solution - short of buying a real jeep!

So, it seems like I have the following options: (not in any particular
order)

1. rebuild existing axle
2. ford rear from bronco
3. look for "donor" jeep. (besides an exact match, should I consider others,
like the scout or wagoneer? if so, what years?)



Doug 04-24-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:3wUae.183$Eg.72@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Could you define "no longer works"?
>
> 1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
> $325.00 price range.
> 2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
> 3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
> budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
> anyway. Some crazier than others.
>
> Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
> fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
> odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially
> if
> you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"No Longer Works" = (short version) Pinion nut came off. jeep would no
longer go forward. Spider gears are a mess.With the pinion yoke back on I
can turn the yoke, but feels like there are pebbles in there...

I could probably have the thing rebuilt. My guess is somewhere in the
neighborhood of $500-$600. I'd hate to put that kind of money into that axle
if I can find a better solution - short of buying a real jeep!

So, it seems like I have the following options: (not in any particular
order)

1. rebuild existing axle
2. ford rear from bronco
3. look for "donor" jeep. (besides an exact match, should I consider others,
like the scout or wagoneer? if so, what years?)



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like 700,
> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.


Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
he does have.

Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.





"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C1E71.31B35118@cox.net...
> Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
> http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like
>> 700,
>> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
he does have.

Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.





"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C1E71.31B35118@cox.net...
> Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
> http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like
>> 700,
>> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
he does have.

Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.





"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C1E71.31B35118@cox.net...
> Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
> http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like
>> 700,
>> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



Jeff Strickland 04-24-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
he does have.

Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.





"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:426C1E71.31B35118@cox.net...
> Yup, Superior could fix this one right up:
> http://----------.com/dana35c/briansmit.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> You can do the Superior Gear Super35 with a locker for something like
>> 700,
>> and this is roughly equivelent to the D44 axles AND you get a locker.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
What part of "no longer works" don't you understand?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
> particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
> he does have.
>
> Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
What part of "no longer works" don't you understand?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
> particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
> he does have.
>
> Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-24-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Axles - Advice needed
 
What part of "no longer works" don't you understand?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> No Bill, Superior can't do ---- with that one, but the OP hasn't got that
> particular problem, and Superior Gear is a viable solution for the problem
> he does have.
>
> Thank you once again, Captain BesideThe Point.



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