Earle Horton

I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
> Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
> Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
> GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
> additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
> gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
> in the differentials.
>
> Jerry
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to
try
> > is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> > fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a
good
> > bet
> >
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> > used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
> >
> > When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> > mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The
service
> > manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> > specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your
Jeep
> > dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> > approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you
get
> > the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up
Dana
> > axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> > future.
> >
> > A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> > several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> > problem, that is who you will need.
> >
> > Earle
> > "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
> >
> > <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> >>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> >>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> >>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> >>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> >>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> >>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> >>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> >>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> >>destiny of buying a horse.
> >>
> >>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> >>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> >>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> >>jobs less begine.
> >>
> >>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> >>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> >>This problem "comes and goes".
> >>
> >>Fabe
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

It doesn't have to do with how good the gear lube is, even the best
quality synthetics can still have those sulphur based additives.
Mobil-1 is not even a good choice due to those additives. Just stick
with a GL-3 or GL-4 and you can be assured the additives are not
present. I have heard rumors that a few GL-5 lubes don't have them
present but I'm not going to bother researching them when there are good
quality non GL-5 lubes like Redine's MT90 available.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
> synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
>
>>Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
>>Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
>>GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
>>additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
>>gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
>>in the differentials.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to
>
> try
>
>>>is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
>>>fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a
>
> good
>
>>>bet
>>>
>
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
>
>>>used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>>>
>>>When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
>>>mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The
>
> service
>
>>>manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
>>>specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your
>
> Jeep
>
>>>dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
>>>approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you
>
> get
>
>>>the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up
>
> Dana
>
>>>axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
>>>future.
>>>
>>>A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
>>>several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
>>>problem, that is who you will need.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>>>
>>><fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>>>
>>>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>>>jobs less begine.
>>>>
>>>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>>>
>>>>Fabe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

It doesn't have to do with how good the gear lube is, even the best
quality synthetics can still have those sulphur based additives.
Mobil-1 is not even a good choice due to those additives. Just stick
with a GL-3 or GL-4 and you can be assured the additives are not
present. I have heard rumors that a few GL-5 lubes don't have them
present but I'm not going to bother researching them when there are good
quality non GL-5 lubes like Redine's MT90 available.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
> synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
>
>>Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
>>Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
>>GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
>>additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
>>gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
>>in the differentials.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to
>
> try
>
>>>is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
>>>fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a
>
> good
>
>>>bet
>>>
>
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
>
>>>used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>>>
>>>When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
>>>mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The
>
> service
>
>>>manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
>>>specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your
>
> Jeep
>
>>>dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
>>>approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you
>
> get
>
>>>the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up
>
> Dana
>
>>>axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
>>>future.
>>>
>>>A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
>>>several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
>>>problem, that is who you will need.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>>>
>>><fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>>>
>>>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>>>jobs less begine.
>>>>
>>>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>>>
>>>>Fabe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

It doesn't have to do with how good the gear lube is, even the best
quality synthetics can still have those sulphur based additives.
Mobil-1 is not even a good choice due to those additives. Just stick
with a GL-3 or GL-4 and you can be assured the additives are not
present. I have heard rumors that a few GL-5 lubes don't have them
present but I'm not going to bother researching them when there are good
quality non GL-5 lubes like Redine's MT90 available.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
> synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
>
>>Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
>>Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
>>GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
>>additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
>>gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
>>in the differentials.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to
>
> try
>
>>>is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
>>>fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a
>
> good
>
>>>bet
>>>
>
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
>
>>>used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>>>
>>>When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
>>>mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The
>
> service
>
>>>manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
>>>specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your
>
> Jeep
>
>>>dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
>>>approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you
>
> get
>
>>>the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up
>
> Dana
>
>>>axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
>>>future.
>>>
>>>A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
>>>several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
>>>problem, that is who you will need.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>>>
>>><fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>>>
>>>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>>>jobs less begine.
>>>>
>>>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>>>
>>>>Fabe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

It doesn't have to do with how good the gear lube is, even the best
quality synthetics can still have those sulphur based additives.
Mobil-1 is not even a good choice due to those additives. Just stick
with a GL-3 or GL-4 and you can be assured the additives are not
present. I have heard rumors that a few GL-5 lubes don't have them
present but I'm not going to bother researching them when there are good
quality non GL-5 lubes like Redine's MT90 available.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
> synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
>
>>Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
>>Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
>>GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
>>additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
>>gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
>>in the differentials.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to
>
> try
>
>>>is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
>>>fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a
>
> good
>
>>>bet
>>>
>
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
>
>>>used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>>>
>>>When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
>>>mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The
>
> service
>
>>>manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
>>>specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your
>
> Jeep
>
>>>dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
>>>approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you
>
> get
>
>>>the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up
>
> Dana
>
>>>axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
>>>future.
>>>
>>>A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
>>>several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
>>>problem, that is who you will need.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>>>
>>><fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>>>
>>>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>>>jobs less begine.
>>>>
>>>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>>>
>>>>Fabe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/