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Simon Juncal 11-28-2003 01:28 PM

all right time for some 4WD questions
 
I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
to get me anything from the front tires.

The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?

This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.


Kevin in San Diego 11-28-2003 01:53 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
Your front hubs arent locking? Is it a vacuum type front axle?
KH

"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FC793E7.4070900@erols.com...
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>




Kevin in San Diego 11-28-2003 01:53 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
Your front hubs arent locking? Is it a vacuum type front axle?
KH

"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FC793E7.4070900@erols.com...
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>




Kevin in San Diego 11-28-2003 01:53 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
Your front hubs arent locking? Is it a vacuum type front axle?
KH

"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FC793E7.4070900@erols.com...
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>




FrankW 11-28-2003 01:56 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>



FrankW 11-28-2003 01:56 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>



FrankW 11-28-2003 01:56 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 
I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.

Simon Juncal wrote:
> I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> to get me anything from the front tires.
>
> The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
>
> This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
>



Jerry Bransford 11-28-2003 02:02 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:sJqdnfNyoZncB1qiRVn-tw@magma.ca...
> I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
> Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.


Wrangers don't have autolocking hubs. The YJ used a vacuum actuated axle
disconnect contraption on the two-piece passenger side axle shaft.

Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> > Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> > sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> > under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> > I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> > in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> > existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> > spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> > to get me anything from the front tires.
> >
> > The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> > RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> > no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
> >
> > This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
> >

>




Jerry Bransford 11-28-2003 02:02 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:sJqdnfNyoZncB1qiRVn-tw@magma.ca...
> I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
> Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.


Wrangers don't have autolocking hubs. The YJ used a vacuum actuated axle
disconnect contraption on the two-piece passenger side axle shaft.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> > Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> > sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> > under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> > I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> > in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> > existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> > spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> > to get me anything from the front tires.
> >
> > The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> > RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> > no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
> >
> > This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
> >

>




Jerry Bransford 11-28-2003 02:02 PM

Re: all right time for some 4WD questions
 


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:sJqdnfNyoZncB1qiRVn-tw@magma.ca...
> I had a 88YJ that had the same problem.
> Turned out to be a leaking vacuum hose that engages the autolocking hubs.


Wrangers don't have autolocking hubs. The YJ used a vacuum actuated axle
disconnect contraption on the two-piece passenger side axle shaft.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> > I just took the beater out on my old logging road to see what it can do.
> > Didn't get far before the all season stock size tires let me down on a
> > sharp but small incline. The ground is covered in wet leaves and right
> > under them some relatively firm dirt. I was pretty damn disappointed as
> > I lost traction and then got _barely_ stuck (really just had no traction
> > in that spot and got unstuck easily) as the wheels settled into some
> > existing ruts. I noticed that only the rear tire was actually
> > spinning... nothing from the front. I tried 4H and 4L and neither seemed
> > to get me anything from the front tires.
> >
> > The crank case seems to shift fine, I could tell from the difference in
> > RPM vs Speed that I was obviously in 4L, 4H and 2wd when I shifted and
> > no odd noises. So why didn't I get anything from the front wheels?
> >
> > This is an 88 YJ with d30 and d35.
> >

>





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