Mike Romain

They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
rails all the way along.

The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:44 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/xj_hook.html
> >http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...r2/armor2.html
> >http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/recovery.html
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
>
> Maybe I need to take another look, but I was *sure* I saw frame rails
> under my XJ !?! (All the links above refer to unibody) If I'm wrong,
> I'm glad I didn't buy the hooks yet, cuz the special brackets required
> for a unibody are a lot more work than I planned :(
>
> ...
>
> >noneyabusiness wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm planning on going to Terra Del Sol this year, and decided that I
> >> should have some tow hooks on the Jeep in case I need to get pulled
> >> out of a jam.
> >>
> >> Looking at the frame under the front end, I can't see a good place to
> >> mount them :( There isn't a place where I would be able to install the
> >> mounting bolts due to the "boxed" (?) section of the frame.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something, or should I pay to have the hooks *welded*
> >> onto the frame? (There is also the matter of the 4" wide "skirt"
> >> running across the front end, under the bumper - I suppose I could
> >> just have a notch cut in it to expose the hook(s)?)
> >>
> >> Anyone have examples of how/where to install hooks on a Cherokee?
> >> (I'm thinking of just using a receiver hitch hook for the rear.)
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> (95 Cherokee Sport; 4.0L; Auto; 235/ 75R15 Goodyear Wrangler ATs)

noneyabusiness

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:30:34 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
>rails all the way along.
>
>The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
>extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Yeah, I looked again and it looks kinda like a hybrid unibody on
frame.
But it does look like actual frame rails through the engine
conpartment.
I just cant see how I would mount typical hooks, so I'll have to look
into these alternate bumper mount brackets to mount them.

Thanks again.
....

>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:44 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/xj_hook.html
>> >http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...r2/armor2.html
>> >http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/recovery.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I need to take another look, but I was *sure* I saw frame rails
>> under my XJ !?! (All the links above refer to unibody) If I'm wrong,
>> I'm glad I didn't buy the hooks yet, cuz the special brackets required
>> for a unibody are a lot more work than I planned :(
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >noneyabusiness wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm planning on going to Terra Del Sol this year, and decided that I
>> >> should have some tow hooks on the Jeep in case I need to get pulled
>> >> out of a jam.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at the frame under the front end, I can't see a good place to
>> >> mount them :( There isn't a place where I would be able to install the
>> >> mounting bolts due to the "boxed" (?) section of the frame.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something, or should I pay to have the hooks *welded*
>> >> onto the frame? (There is also the matter of the 4" wide "skirt"
>> >> running across the front end, under the bumper - I suppose I could
>> >> just have a notch cut in it to expose the hook(s)?)
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have examples of how/where to install hooks on a Cherokee?
>> >> (I'm thinking of just using a receiver hitch hook for the rear.)
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> (95 Cherokee Sport; 4.0L; Auto; 235/ 75R15 Goodyear Wrangler ATs)

noneyabusiness

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:30:34 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
>rails all the way along.
>
>The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
>extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Yeah, I looked again and it looks kinda like a hybrid unibody on
frame.
But it does look like actual frame rails through the engine
conpartment.
I just cant see how I would mount typical hooks, so I'll have to look
into these alternate bumper mount brackets to mount them.

Thanks again.
....

>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:44 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/xj_hook.html
>> >http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...r2/armor2.html
>> >http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/recovery.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I need to take another look, but I was *sure* I saw frame rails
>> under my XJ !?! (All the links above refer to unibody) If I'm wrong,
>> I'm glad I didn't buy the hooks yet, cuz the special brackets required
>> for a unibody are a lot more work than I planned :(
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >noneyabusiness wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm planning on going to Terra Del Sol this year, and decided that I
>> >> should have some tow hooks on the Jeep in case I need to get pulled
>> >> out of a jam.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at the frame under the front end, I can't see a good place to
>> >> mount them :( There isn't a place where I would be able to install the
>> >> mounting bolts due to the "boxed" (?) section of the frame.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something, or should I pay to have the hooks *welded*
>> >> onto the frame? (There is also the matter of the 4" wide "skirt"
>> >> running across the front end, under the bumper - I suppose I could
>> >> just have a notch cut in it to expose the hook(s)?)
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have examples of how/where to install hooks on a Cherokee?
>> >> (I'm thinking of just using a receiver hitch hook for the rear.)
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> (95 Cherokee Sport; 4.0L; Auto; 235/ 75R15 Goodyear Wrangler ATs)

noneyabusiness

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:30:34 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
>rails all the way along.
>
>The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
>extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Yeah, I looked again and it looks kinda like a hybrid unibody on
frame.
But it does look like actual frame rails through the engine
conpartment.
I just cant see how I would mount typical hooks, so I'll have to look
into these alternate bumper mount brackets to mount them.

Thanks again.
....

>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:44 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/xj_hook.html
>> >http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...r2/armor2.html
>> >http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/recovery.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I need to take another look, but I was *sure* I saw frame rails
>> under my XJ !?! (All the links above refer to unibody) If I'm wrong,
>> I'm glad I didn't buy the hooks yet, cuz the special brackets required
>> for a unibody are a lot more work than I planned :(
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >noneyabusiness wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm planning on going to Terra Del Sol this year, and decided that I
>> >> should have some tow hooks on the Jeep in case I need to get pulled
>> >> out of a jam.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at the frame under the front end, I can't see a good place to
>> >> mount them :( There isn't a place where I would be able to install the
>> >> mounting bolts due to the "boxed" (?) section of the frame.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something, or should I pay to have the hooks *welded*
>> >> onto the frame? (There is also the matter of the 4" wide "skirt"
>> >> running across the front end, under the bumper - I suppose I could
>> >> just have a notch cut in it to expose the hook(s)?)
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have examples of how/where to install hooks on a Cherokee?
>> >> (I'm thinking of just using a receiver hitch hook for the rear.)
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> (95 Cherokee Sport; 4.0L; Auto; 235/ 75R15 Goodyear Wrangler ATs)

noneyabusiness

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:30:34 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
>rails all the way along.
>
>The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
>extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Yeah, I looked again and it looks kinda like a hybrid unibody on
frame.
But it does look like actual frame rails through the engine
conpartment.
I just cant see how I would mount typical hooks, so I'll have to look
into these alternate bumper mount brackets to mount them.

Thanks again.
....

>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:44 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/xj_hook.html
>> >http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...r2/armor2.html
>> >http://www.custom4x4fabrication.com/recovery.html
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I need to take another look, but I was *sure* I saw frame rails
>> under my XJ !?! (All the links above refer to unibody) If I'm wrong,
>> I'm glad I didn't buy the hooks yet, cuz the special brackets required
>> for a unibody are a lot more work than I planned :(
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >noneyabusiness wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm planning on going to Terra Del Sol this year, and decided that I
>> >> should have some tow hooks on the Jeep in case I need to get pulled
>> >> out of a jam.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at the frame under the front end, I can't see a good place to
>> >> mount them :( There isn't a place where I would be able to install the
>> >> mounting bolts due to the "boxed" (?) section of the frame.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something, or should I pay to have the hooks *welded*
>> >> onto the frame? (There is also the matter of the 4" wide "skirt"
>> >> running across the front end, under the bumper - I suppose I could
>> >> just have a notch cut in it to expose the hook(s)?)
>> >>
>> >> Anyone have examples of how/where to install hooks on a Cherokee?
>> >> (I'm thinking of just using a receiver hitch hook for the rear.)
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >> (95 Cherokee Sport; 4.0L; Auto; 235/ 75R15 Goodyear Wrangler ATs)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Are you sure: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/ ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
> rails all the way along.
>
> The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
> extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Are you sure: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/ ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
> rails all the way along.
>
> The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
> extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Are you sure: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/ ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
> rails all the way along.
>
> The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
> extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Are you sure: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/ ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
> rails all the way along.
>
> The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
> extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

Figure it this way Bill, the engine and leaf springs sit on those rails
as well as the body.....

Sure it isn't a boxed frame under the body, it's a sideways C channel
frame, just like you like except tilted. ;-)

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Are you sure: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/ ;-)
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > They call it a 'uniframe' more than a unibody because there are frame
> > rails all the way along.
> >
> > The problem is there is no frame out to the bumper so you need frame
> > extensions to fit tow hooks on. They are pretty beefy too.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)