Advice on Possible First Jeep
12-07-2003, 11:50 AM
#51
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
I have had my YJ up to 85. It was downhill with a tail wind, and not the
smartest thing to do, but I needed to pass a CJ-7!
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD3552E.C8D19091@sympatico.ca...
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > That sounds like a reasonable price.
> >
> > > The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
> > > speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the
4
> > > banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.
> >
> > How fast do you think I can comfortably go on the highway? I tend
> > average at least 80 on highways and interstates.
> >
> > --
> > Steve
smartest thing to do, but I needed to pass a CJ-7!
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD3552E.C8D19091@sympatico.ca...
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > That sounds like a reasonable price.
> >
> > > The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
> > > speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the
4
> > > banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.
> >
> > How fast do you think I can comfortably go on the highway? I tend
> > average at least 80 on highways and interstates.
> >
> > --
> > Steve
12-07-2003, 11:50 AM
#52
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
I have had my YJ up to 85. It was downhill with a tail wind, and not the
smartest thing to do, but I needed to pass a CJ-7!
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD3552E.C8D19091@sympatico.ca...
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > That sounds like a reasonable price.
> >
> > > The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
> > > speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the
4
> > > banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.
> >
> > How fast do you think I can comfortably go on the highway? I tend
> > average at least 80 on highways and interstates.
> >
> > --
> > Steve
smartest thing to do, but I needed to pass a CJ-7!
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD3552E.C8D19091@sympatico.ca...
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > That sounds like a reasonable price.
> >
> > > The 4 banger is totally competent off road and in the city. It is no
> > > speed demon on the highway, but I have gone in convoy on trips and the
4
> > > banger guys can keep the speed limit easy.
> >
> > How fast do you think I can comfortably go on the highway? I tend
> > average at least 80 on highways and interstates.
> >
> > --
> > Steve
12-07-2003, 12:26 PM
#53
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
My TJ is stable at any speed I've taken it to so far. I drive 80mph for
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
12-07-2003, 12:26 PM
#54
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
My TJ is stable at any speed I've taken it to so far. I drive 80mph for
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
12-07-2003, 12:26 PM
#55
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
My TJ is stable at any speed I've taken it to so far. I drive 80mph for
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
at least 5 miles every day on a streach of I287 in NJ on my way to work.
It tracks dead straight and will stay they way with little effort. That
being said however, if you twitch at 80mpg you're gonna DIE. Once you
get out of control at a speed that high I doubt even the best drivers
could recover so paying attention is a must.
Drop it down to 70mph and things are a lot more forgiving. There is time
to think at that speed.
However, tire pressure has a *HUGE* effect on handling at high speeds.
You need to make sure you have the optimal contact patch for you vehicle
or else you WILL be spun around when you pass a semi-trailer or get hit
with a crosswind.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You won't be going 80 in any Jeep....
>
> They are ok for stability up to about 75, but get any faster and they
> get way too twitchy.
>
> The short wheel base reacts too fast to minor steering changes and
> passing a semi at those kind of speeds is down right scary.
>
> I am comfortable in mine up to 75, but any more is white knuckle
> territory.
>
> Jeeps are low geared so getting up there isn't bad.
>
> When we run in convoy, I try and stay under 70. Everyone can keep up
> that way.
12-07-2003, 12:52 PM
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
At 12/6/03 17:59, Peter Parker bespake thusly:
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-07-2003, 12:52 PM
#57
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
At 12/6/03 17:59, Peter Parker bespake thusly:
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-07-2003, 12:52 PM
#58
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
At 12/6/03 17:59, Peter Parker bespake thusly:
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> In article <1a25tvk4rvl7vme1so5u32dja1b74t40ag@4ax.com>,
> Matt Osborn <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:38:43 +0000 (UTC), Steve
>><scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>After being told by my girlfriend
>>>that trucks "weren't sexy"
>>
>>get a new girlfriend.
>
> You have been warned.
Unless of course she coughs up to help buy the Jeep.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-10-2003, 01:01 AM
#59
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
Too much money!! I paid that for my '97 TJ a year ago, and it has the
4.0L engine, hard top, AC, sound bar, and was in near-mint condition with
67K miles.
The 4.0L engine in a MUST in my opinion unless you are just going to use
it for off-road in which case the 4-banger is reputed to work fine. But
it's a fun vehicle to drive with the 4.0L, and with 10K to spend you
should be able to find a good one with a 4.0L engine!
-jeff
In <bqtpa3$3u4$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu> Steve <scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> writes:
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.
>--
>Steve
4.0L engine, hard top, AC, sound bar, and was in near-mint condition with
67K miles.
The 4.0L engine in a MUST in my opinion unless you are just going to use
it for off-road in which case the 4-banger is reputed to work fine. But
it's a fun vehicle to drive with the 4.0L, and with 10K to spend you
should be able to find a good one with a 4.0L engine!
-jeff
In <bqtpa3$3u4$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu> Steve <scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> writes:
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.
>--
>Steve
12-10-2003, 01:01 AM
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Re: Advice on Possible First Jeep
Too much money!! I paid that for my '97 TJ a year ago, and it has the
4.0L engine, hard top, AC, sound bar, and was in near-mint condition with
67K miles.
The 4.0L engine in a MUST in my opinion unless you are just going to use
it for off-road in which case the 4-banger is reputed to work fine. But
it's a fun vehicle to drive with the 4.0L, and with 10K to spend you
should be able to find a good one with a 4.0L engine!
-jeff
In <bqtpa3$3u4$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu> Steve <scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> writes:
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.
>--
>Steve
4.0L engine, hard top, AC, sound bar, and was in near-mint condition with
67K miles.
The 4.0L engine in a MUST in my opinion unless you are just going to use
it for off-road in which case the 4-banger is reputed to work fine. But
it's a fun vehicle to drive with the 4.0L, and with 10K to spend you
should be able to find a good one with a 4.0L engine!
-jeff
In <bqtpa3$3u4$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu> Steve <scorenfl@disinclude.indiana.edu> writes:
> Hi. I'm a college student in Indiana. I've been driving a little '95
>Nissan Pickup for the last six years. After being told by my girlfriend
>that trucks "weren't sexy" I thought about looking around at new cars (ok,
>that and the fact I've kinda done the truck in).
> I've found a 1999 Jeep Wrangler (TJ, I believe?) SE. It's the SE, so
>it's got the small 4-cylinder engine, soft top, no air--pretty much your
>typical bare-bones Jeep. Oh, it has real roll-up windows as opposed to the
>clear plastic ones too, if that's not a given. It's had chrome covers
>added to the lights and custom wheels put on it as the only modifications.
>It has 32,000 miles, which is lower than the 65,000 miles Kelly Blue Book
>says a '99 should have. He's trying to sell it to me for $9,850. It's in
>excellent condition.
> This would obviously be my first Jeep, and I'm curious whether or not
>you guys can help me make a decision on whether or not I should buy it.
>I'm a bit worried about potential roll-over and how much I'm going to have
>to slow down on curves, how cold it might get in the winter with a soft
>top, and other quirks of having a Jeep I'd want to know about before I
>commit. I've also been told by one person that a 4 cylinder isn't going to
>have enough power.
> I'm not into off-roading at the moment and I'm not sure if I actually
>would be. However, I do want something 4wd, and I do several things (rock
>climbing, caving, etc) where the Jeepness of it might be useful.
> That's as much details as I can think of. If you have any other
>questions let me know. I'm just looking for feedback on whether it's a
>good price and whether or not I might be getting in over my head owning a
>Jeep. I have one very, very Jeep-enthusiastic friend who thinks it would
>be heresy for me to own a Jeep without plans to take it offroading, so I
>apologize for that.
>--
>Steve